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Who else thinks school causes overweight and obesity?

Don't want to be mean to all the actual overweight, but I think one of the main reasons why people are overweight is because of school (Not sure if there are birth problems or other diseases that causes obesity). I mean, school lasts for about 7 or 8 hours? And only about 2 of those hours we are actually not sitting on our asses. IMO, I don't consider PE (at least where I am) actually "active", and if you're standing around for lunch and break, I don't count that as exercising as well. Then, when we get home, homework will probably take about 1-2 hours then another 1-2 hours for showers, dinners, and shit. So already almost HALF the day is already spent, 70% of that being school.

Sure, you can join a sport (I, myself am in track to stay in shape), but I know some people don't have the dedication (I guess?) to join a sport. But if school were shorter, I'm sure people would be encouraged to go for a morning run/jog/walk.

But nope, because of school (and conjuction with fast food restaurants), the way things work now is: wake up, school, shower, dinner, computer, sleep.

I don't wanna diss the people that spend most of their time on the computer here (since I'm pretty sure it's more productive than school anyways), but if it wasn't for the useless time school sucks up, I'm 99% sure there would be a lower rate of overweights.
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Our P.E was more like a recess. The teacher would have us do warm-up stuff(stretches and some light running). Then he'd give us a soccer ball,volley ball or dodge balls and we'd all just organize ourselves into teams and play. He'd just help keep the score.

Course I don't have PE anymore. My school prefers academic stuff more.

Schools could certainly do better to motivate kids into exercising daily(not through competition though. It should be a motivation from within and turned into a habit). Sports are fine but when students aren't part of a team any more, how many continue exercise by themselves? I'm not sure how many students would take advantage of reduced school time to actually exercise, since it's something they need to adjust to and make a habit out of. On average, the reduced time would probably result in longer sleep.

I, for one, am at the stage of getting off my butt to do some running yet not consistently...I'm just lazy(though it's improving Biggrin). Luckly I'm not necessarily unhealthy(not counting the extra storage) and still possess what's left of my muscles from my two years of martial arts(which I ended nearly 7 years ago)

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(02-13-2013 12:57 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Course I don't have PE anymore. My school prefers academic stuff more.

Then the world wonders why America has so many overweights. I think PE is essential, otherwise people would seriously just sit on their ass all day studying things that they won't use.

And there needs to actually be somewhat a workout in PE and actual coaches that will push their students. Seriously, I expect coaches that can do the exercising WITH us. Most of the PE teachers at my school are either too old, have some injury, or are overweight themselves.

But good luck on the running, stick to your schedules! Biggrin
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Schools definitely cause obesity. It's all about sit down and be quiet. Teenagers are biologically geared to be moving all over the place. Another factor is just plain old fear. Students get home and their parents prefer they sit around on their video games because they're afraid of what might happen outside, even though there's far less violent crime now than there was back in the 90's.

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Quote:And there needs to actually be somewhat a workout in PE and actual coaches that will push their students. Seriously, I expect coaches that can do the exercising WITH us. Most of the PE teachers at my school are either too old, have some injury, or are overweight themselves.

Really? You can't figure out how to play and exercise by yourself?

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(02-13-2013 12:57 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  On average, the reduced time would probably result in longer sleep.

Is that such a bad thing? If people can sleep longer and the school doesn't have then getting up at inane times, maybe they'll have enough energy to do a bit of exercise.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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No doubt. Work and school destroy people's natural biorhythm, especially high schools that start at 7 AM. That just doesn't make any sense.

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Who else thinks school causes overweight and obesity?

Hmm... dunno 'bout this. I never got fat when I was in school, and I ate a lot more back then. Later, when I got my own computer, and my parents moved me to a farm where there was nowhere for me to rollerblade, THEN I started getting fat. Razz

Mainly because I was still eating the same amount, but getting a lot less exercise... I think.

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I was fat before I started school. Then I got enrolled in martial arts and it got better(though I think I just have a large body due to genetics, and not in the sense of fat). I enjoy surprising people who assume I'm weak simply because I'm chubbier than normal(such as the poor fellows who think they can outrun me then turn back to find me standing right behind them Mwahaha)

I agree that PE teachers should also be involved in the exercise. The worst teacher is the one who is an overweight man yelling at you to run while he sits in a chair with a doughnut in one hand and a whistle in the other.

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7 am is not really that late considering the fact most people used to be up by sunrise...

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No. School is not the main reason.

Is it the school's fault that you can't go for a run at lunch before or after eating? No.
Is it the school's fault that you're too lazy to wake up earlier and go for a morning run/jog? No.
Is it the school's fault that you go on the computer after doing your homework instead of exercising/working out? No.
AND is it the school's fault that you procrastinate or don't motivate yourself? FUCKING NO.

BUT, I do agree that school's don't have enough physical education, and teachers should be involved in the exercise, but it's still not like you can't do it by yourself.

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what if they have diabetes?

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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(02-15-2013 06:27 AM)Twisted Wrote:  No. School is not the main reason.

Is it the school's fault that you can't go for a run at lunch before or after eating? No.
Is it the school's fault that you're too lazy to wake up earlier and go for a morning run/jog? No.
Is it the school's fault that you go on the computer after doing your homework instead of exercising/working out? No.
AND is it the school's fault that you procrastinate or don't motivate yourself? FUCKING NO.

BUT, I do agree that school's don't have enough physical education, and teachers should be involved in the exercise, but it's still not like you can't do it by yourself.

Isn't school supposed to educate students? Why is physical education not considered a form of education? Schools may not be at "fault" but considering the fact kids spend a massive portion of their life adjusted to the "school lifestyle", schools are not proving to be good role-models(at one side saying they're trying to educate us and on another telling us to motivate ourselves.)

Kids aren't born with the habit of exercise. And to point out, staying healthy is not as easy as one assumes. There are many things you need to know to safely keep yourself healthy and if parents don't show you, society doesn't show you and school doesn't show you, then how do you expect it? Don't parent's send their kids to school to learn and not just academics but other stuff(AKA P.E?)

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