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I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
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I'm torn.
School 1 has my best friend, who needs me.
But I am not sure what the education or teachers are like.
And I have heard there is lots of drama.
And school 2 has great education, which I need.
AND good friends and teachers.
AND little-no drama.
I just miss my best friend so much, but school 2 has no negatives.
Which one...?
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I'm torn.
Get your friend to switch to school 2?
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RE: I'm torn.
Yeah man, get your friend into school 2.
If that isn't possible still go for 2. Not tryin to knock your bro but sometimes you gotta protect your own neck.
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I'm torn.
My friend can't get into school 2 because of the school's busing system.
I am "gifted" and my friend is "regular". We both need to take the bus.
"regular" kids can only be bused from a certain distance, while "gifted" kids can be bused quite farther.
She is not within the "regular" kids bus distance, but I am within the "gifted" kids bus distance.
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RE: I'm torn.
School 2, see your best friend after school and weekends.
Problem solved.
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So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
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I'm torn.
Afterschool I do homework, have dinner, and take a shower. That is seriously all I have time for. And, if I do end up finishing my homework earlier than usual, there STILL isn't enough time.
And my friend is always busy on the weekends.
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I'm torn.
Would you get that much homework in school 2 as well?
Find out more about school 1, there are some comparison facts missing there.
Also, why does your friend need you?
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I'm torn.
We both need each other actually, it's a girl friend thing.
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I'm torn.
Do you really "need" each other?
It can be a tough choice but you need to consider which choice benefits you the greatest as well. Can you be content with sacrificing a possibly more-efficient education that can be beneficial in the long-term?
Some place more emphasis on relationships, others on self-improvement via education(or opportunities). You need to decide whether you can delay your relationships or not.(I've chosen to delay my relationship stuff greatly. I've practically avoided any sort of girlfriend relationship for later, due to furthering my education first and waiting till I reach an age where I have "access" to more mature...mates  )
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I'm torn.
To be honest with you, I'd probably go with school 2 like most others have suggested, if I planned on going to college, which I think is totally unnecessary (seems like you want to go to college). You might think that your friend needs you or that you need your friend, but maybe you guys don't.
The way I would logically work out this out would be to think that my friend (or myself) is dependent. And we all need to learn how to be independent in our life sometimes.
And by needs, would you mean emotionally need or academically need? Like brainiac3397 said, do you really "need" each other?
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I'm torn.
I guess I'm weird, I would pick friends over school/location any day.
But "needing" each other kind of bothers me, that sounds potentially unhealthy.
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I'm torn.
Can I point out that we are best friends, and both girls.
This is not college, this is school.
And I heard that School 1 has a lot of drama, and she gets really hung up around that kind of stuff. I just don't want her to go through anything (like bullying, family problems, etc.) alone.
And I get stressed out about school a lot, so she gives me advice and helps me deal with it.
We can tell each other anything. Secrets, ranting, problems, etc, and never judge each other.
Besides, School 2 is really hard. It's really hard to understand math, and I'm only really good in the arts. I'm trying, and I only started my medication 2-3 weeks ago, but I feel so stupid compared to my other smart chinese classmates. It's not doing any good for my self image.
I'm going to see how good I do on my last report card, check my stress levels, and check with the doctor to see his opinion.
Any more answers? Or should I wait until the end of the school year?
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I'm torn.
Hehe...Chinese.
By the way you explain it, I'd suggest going along with your friend. Sometimes being a lone wolf works but sometimes, being with friends/comrades/compatriots/companions(that's alot of Cs) can be just as beneficial.
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I'm torn.
What medication are you on?
Are you actually in China?
How hard would it be to change schools later, if you pick one and later decide it wasn't a good choice?
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I'm torn.
In the end, you must think about what is best for you and what you want. I feel that the second choice is the best option for you. However, you must pick what you need and want.
I'm sorry but what language are you speaking? Because it sounds like bullshit.
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I'm torn.
Just oovoo or skype each other every night while doing homework or something.
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
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I'm torn.
@SoulRiser: 1. I have ADHD, onsomething called "Vyvanse 30mg, Lisdexamfetamlne Dimesylate 30mg". Just one every morning, helps a lot.
2. No, I'm in Canada. Chinese people moved here, had children, made them smart, and ended up in my class.
3. My mother doesn't want me moving back and forth, probably once every one or two years.
@IamNoone: I don't multitask, she is really busy, I am sort of busy.
When I say busy, I mean REALLY busy. I can't even call her without getting voicemail.
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RE: I'm torn.
Quote:My mother doesn't want me moving back and forth, probably once every one or two years.
Well, I didn't mean moving back and forth, I just mean if you can switch if you think you made a mistake with your choice. That doesn't seem unreasonable at all...
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I'm torn.
Well, it's mostly because she wants me to wait to get used to new things. At the beginning of the year I hated my new school, and wanted to move back to my old school with my best friend, but my mom told me to wait until first term.
First term has past now and I really like my new school, but still miss my best friend.
I guess I'm mostly just afraid that we will slowly drift apart, and I never want that to happen.
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RE: I'm torn.
Quote:I guess I'm mostly just afraid that we will slowly drift apart, and I never want that to happen.
If you guys are really as close as you say, that shouldn't happen.
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I'm torn.
EXACTLY. I know that we will never drift apart, I just can't help but think "what if..."
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I'm torn.
Tell the school officials to let your friend to school 2. When they say no, eat them.
Hello, traveler.
This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.
Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"
Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.
People are allowed to change their views.
Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.
If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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I'm torn.
Cannibalism is not my first resort, it's about my fifth you something...
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I'm torn.
*or
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I'm torn.
you take VYVANCE!? GET OF IT NOW! I TOOK TAT ITS HORRRILE OMG HOW DO YOU LIVE?
School isnt as bad as you think
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I'm torn.
It works amazing for me... what is wrong with it
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I'm torn.
Maybe Twisted is one of those rare people who actually really has ADHD? 
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I'm torn.
Yup, I think so anyways. I only take it on weekdays, or when I have a lot of homework on the weekend. I choose whether to take it or not, so that's good.
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