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Okay, this was inspired from the Legacy with Chuckes the Thing as a founder. He used his kids as child labour and ran a muffin shop, from use of OFB.

So:

The goal is to survive solely on children's earnings.
I'm thinking of OFB, but there is a way for kids to earn money without it.

Babies: You'll want to keep having them as this is the only time you're allowed to control the parents and you'll want a steady stream of children.

Toddlers: Only teenagers can teach them to walk, talk and potty train them. Only children can teach them the nursery rhyme. If there are no teenagers in the house, there is no learning to walk or talk or use the potty. If there are no children in the house, there is no learning the nursery rhyme.

Children: Children will be providing you with your income as the parents are <insert your reason for their being useless here> and thus can't be controlled besides the 'baby/social worker exception.' You may use Inge's no-school mod but if you do send the kids to school then remember, these children are bread-winners so they should only do their homework if the social worker threatens. Only teenagers are allowed to help with homework and the child must initiate the interaction. If you have the children can get baby bottles mod, children can be allowed to do so but it may be better strategy to leave that to the teens, as the children are the bread-winners.

Teenagers: Teenagers must be enrolled in school. Teenagers are beginning to fall into the parent's patterns but are not quite there yet. Although you may control them, there are only a few activities they are allowed to do. They are too far-gone to stick to a schedule so they may not have a traditional career. They may not work but are allowed to open/close businesses and man the cash register and enable the children to sell their things. The teenager is not allowed to do any of the actual work though. Teenagers are functional enough to help with homework but only if the child asks - they aren't functional enough to think of it themselves. As teenagers are desperate to get out of this hell-hole, they have a desperation rule - they may study. If teenagers miss the school bus, that's their problem.

Platinum: Roll a dice. If it comes up on an even number, your teenager is more resilient than most. This teenager is allowed to carry on with the privileges/responsibility of the children. In addition, the teenager may have a traditional job, so long as they help when they return home. If you send your teen to school and/or work, make sure they get to school and/or work on time. If you roll an odd number, the teenager starts to decline, this is demonstrated by treating the teenager as gold.

Gold: The teenager has difficulties with a traditional schedule. For the purposes of the game, if they miss the school bus or work, they may walk and they will just have to deal with the consequences of their lateness. However, if the dice rolls either a '1' or a '6', they may retain all other rights and privileges and responsibilities of the child e.g. you may cancel their actions. If they roll a middle-number (2-5), treat as green.

Green: They may not have a traditional career as they are unable to cope with a schedule. Follow the teenage rules set out in the main challenge, unless you're lucky enough to roll a 6. A six entitles the teenager to be treated as gold. For green, if you're not sure whether you're allowed to do something, the guideline is 'Teenagers may facilitate a child's earning but may not earn themselves.' So for example, a teenager is allowed to man the cash register and sell the fish children caught but is not allowed to fish themselves/sell their own fish'

If your teenager grows up below green, the life has taken a toll on them. For the purposes of the game, they must be treated as adults

If you have hobby-benches, then they fall under the 'study' rule if you have a scholarship for gold badges mod. However, there is no selling their things.

Teenagers must be sent to college as soon as one of the following is true

a)They have earned one scholarship
b) A younger sibling ages up to teenager


Independent teens/adults/: Adults may only care for infants/toddlers/children if they choose to do so - no controlling them. Childcare should fall to teens. The only time parents should care for babies/toddlers/children under your direction is to avoid social workers. If the parents/teenagers are are interacting with the child, it is the child's responsibility to say if they have other things to do, not the teenager's/adult's. For the purpose of simulating this, you should cancel the child's 'be read a story' action, not the story-readers' 'read a story to child' action.

Post-menopausal adults/elder: Once biological means have failed (your woman is too old for pregnancy), the baby exception reverts to the adoption exception. Your parents have now 'successfully raised' several children and the STORK believes they can make good parents. You must now keep adopting (frequency of adoption)? Alternatively, for a longer challenge, the oldest daughter still at home may take over or for a shorter challenge, the challenge is over.

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01-30-2013 11:09 AM
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I like the first title option.

Also, interesting idea.

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lol, this is so crazy it makes me want to try it.

Sims 3 kinda pissed me off with kids refusing to be able to be outside after dark. I wanted them to steal stuff, but that was hard during the day... and I had to throw their homework out in the middle of nowhere so that they couldn't do it (little idiots kept trying). Laugh

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Ah.

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Lolwat.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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Just to be strange

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