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I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

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lectured for being depressed.
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lectured for being depressed.

Whenever I try to talk to someone about my feelings when I'm feeling particularly depressed I always feel lectured.

I feel like they're not understanding what I'm saying.

It's so easy to say "look at the beauty" when you're able to see the beauty. And basically everything else that these people try to say.

People don't seem to realize that sometimes people just want to be understood.

There is no beauty when you're depressed.
There is no hope.
There is no one that cares (even if there really is).
there is no love.
there is no future.

There is only crying.
death.
hopelessness.
sadness.
inadequacy.
There is only an ugly ugly world filled with ugly people.

I don't even think anyone knows what depression is.

I'm a girl ffffeck
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lectured for being depressed.

People who blame the suicidal people for their problems deserve to die themselves.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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RE: lectured for being depressed.

You can talk to me about it.

I won't give you advice unless you ask for it because I know it's bullshit that won't help you anyway.

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lectured for being depressed.

Need to find better listeners (yeah, I know they're kinda rare)...

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RE: lectured for being depressed.

Dude, I understand you so much. I get depressed a lot. Then I started regular meditation and it seems to stop.

But I know what you mean. Doesn't high school teach you anything except that this world blows?? That statement is true, life sucks and then we do die. I bet if you told people about it they would probably tell you to start smoking weed or just plain ignore you.

Cool story, bro. Tell it again.
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lectured for being depressed.

Life doesn't have to suck... but getting it to un-suck requires a lot of effort and changing of perspectives, all of which is difficult to do when depressed. So it's kinda like a vicious circle...

Supportive people who are good listeners and not judgemental can help though.

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If nobody looks at the darkness, does the light mean anything?

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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to whoever reads this post.. plz read some of my writing and let me know if it helps u understand things..,

http://www.eqi.org/ts

thanks

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lectured for being depressed.

Why is a guy who registered in 2007 just now posting? :\

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Because of reasons.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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RE: lectured for being depressed.

(01-28-2013 08:55 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Life doesn't have to suck... but getting it to un-suck requires a lot of effort and changing of perspectives, all of which is difficult to do when depressed. So it's kinda like a vicious circle...

Supportive people who are good listeners and not judgemental can help though.

I think you really hit the nail on the head there, soulriser.

I went through a pretty deep depression. I wasn't, fortunately, faded into it. It hit me fast enough for me to feel a drastic change in my life. I wasn't social at ALL anymore. I barely liked being with my best friends. I stopped playing music, didn't really enjoy listening to it either. I didn't even enjoy eating food anymore. I would get about half way through whatever meal and then be completely full.

The whole reason this even happened was because I ate a shitload of mushrooms one night and had a pretty unnerving trip. It wasn't BAD, but it sucked.

This went on for about 2 months or so... After that I started to actively TRY to see the "light." In other words I tried looking for something I just knew to the bottom of my heart was not there anymore....and eventually I saw a little bit, then a little bit more, and then a little more, until I was finally at least a little comfortable. Then I tripped again on a way smaller amount....and I had a great trip... There was just something about actually enjoying myself that just...snapped me out of it.

Funny how the very thing that put me into that funk brought me through the final doorway and into the sunlight.

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RE: lectured for being depressed.

it hurts to be called a guy who registered in 2007
it hurts to not feel understood
it hurts to not feel known or cared about
it hurts to come to this thread looking for something encouraging and read this
it hurts to know no one is teaching the people here the things i have learned and teach - for example the two kinds of motivation for asking why -- as i have written about on my sire - for example in this article

http://eqi.org/why1.htm

it hurts to know i will probably be invalidated. and might be attacked. or judged even more.

it hurts to know not many people know about invalidation or think about it or about their emotional needs, and not many pple know how to express their feelings in a healthy way or to realize when they are feeling judgmental or hurtful or defensive.

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i was already feeling suicidal and discouraged. that is one reason i came back to this thread. i said not long ago that ss was a safe place for me but it feels less safe now.

still i am really really really tired of not being understood, and of being questioned and not cared about. so im still feeling hopeful there are some caring people here from time to time. pple who want to learn from me. who value my writing, my ideas, my work, my life, my pain, my beliefs.

i know a lot of people here are in pain. i feel sad they dont know how to express it more directly and specifically, and take more responsibility for it, or at least understand where it comes from or at least try to.

i know i am on a whole different level of awareness, let's say -- and it hurts to be there and feel so alone. yet i still have some hope my words will help someone here and that also i can find some help here. some emotional support.
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(06-07-2013 09:15 AM)OfficerFlake Wrote:  Why is a guy who registered in 2007 just now posting? :\

Because why not? Does this bother you for some reason?

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(06-07-2013 06:01 PM)stevehein Wrote:  it hurts to know no one is teaching the people here the things i have learned and teach - for example the two kinds of motivation for asking why -- as i have written about on my sire - for example in this article

http://eqi.org/why1.htm

Thanks for posting that, it's really interesting. Also liked the bit about 'positive regret'.

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RE: lectured for being depressed.

(01-27-2013 06:43 PM)Night Wrote:  Whenever I try to talk to someone about my feelings when I'm feeling particularly depressed I always feel lectured.

I feel like they're not understanding what I'm saying.

It's so easy to say "look at the beauty" when you're able to see the beauty. And basically everything else that these people try to say.

People don't seem to realize that sometimes people just want to be understood.

There is no beauty when you're depressed.
There is no hope.
There is no one that cares (even if there really is).
there is no love.
there is no future.

There is only crying.
death.
hopelessness.
sadness.
inadequacy.
There is only an ugly ugly world filled with ugly people.

I don't even think anyone knows what depression is.


I agree with all that.
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