New School Rule

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During the announcements at my school, my school's vice principal said that getting into any sort of fight with anybody, self-defense or not, will lead to a $200 fine for assault and a 3-day suspension. If you get in a second or third fight, you could be arrested and taken off campus, fined for a larger amount of money, suspended longer, and/or sent to alternative school. He also said that no matter what the other person has done to you, even if they were bullying or harassing you, there will always be consequences if you choose to fight, and the staff wants you to report whoever is harassing you so they can handle the problem for you.

So basically, if somebody is fighting you, let them beat you up, and then tell an adult, and let them resolve it, even though they probably won't do anything.

[тωιѕтє∂]

It's fucking pathetic. Where I live, it is actually legal to fight a person if they bully, harass, or offend you. Just as long as you don't keep fighting them while they are already on the floor.

If it's self defense to an extreme (rape, murder, etc.), I'm pretty sure you could get away will killing the person.

[IamNoone]

Take it outside of school, simple as that. The rule is stupid, I admit, self defense isn't assault and you could easily counter sue because the law says self defense is ok. School can't fine you for assault, anyway. What state (or country) are you from?

[Luizao876]

This is stupid and your school administration is stupid.

[Ky]

Brilliant idea: Beat up your school's vice principal. Afterwards, inform him that he is suspended for three days and ask him to pay you $200.

[SmokeyTheAggie]

(01-12-2013 11:20 AM)DoA Wrote:  Brilliant idea: Beat up your school's vice principal. Afterwards, inform him that he is suspended for three days and ask him to pay you $200.

Do it!

If you do get fined, what happens if you just refuse to pay it?

[Heil_Kaiba8921]

just pick a place somewhere where your school has no jurisdiction at all and get somebody to make up a contract (this is optional, but a good idea to make sure the loser doesn't press charges) where if someone presses charges, the other person will basically "own" them until the day they die (they will have to pay you a bunch of money, well, a bunch to the state of living they are in)

[Ky]

^ It wouldn't be legally binding. Slavery is illegal.

[AtheistLGBTQAnarchist]

Contracts are the law!

[HeartoftheNorth]

(01-12-2013 11:20 AM)DoA Wrote:  Brilliant idea: Beat up your school's vice principal. Afterwards, inform him that he is suspended for three days and ask him to pay you $200.

[Ky]

(01-13-2013 01:02 PM)AtheistLGBTQAnarchist Wrote:  Contracts are the law!

Contracts cannot circumvent the law. Actual laws, statutes, and mandates have priority - if you have a contract that requires someone to commit a felony in order to honor it, for example, both parties are breaking the law (one by writing it, the other by signing).

[SoulRiser]

I'm guessing they came up with this so they don't have to try to figure out who started it... just fine 'em both. Or maybe they just need the moneys...

Which means they actually don't give a shit about their students because people who start fights don't give a damn about consequences - the people being beat up are far more likely to - and that means they now can't even defend themselves.

[Heil_Kaiba8921]

(01-13-2013 09:56 AM)DoA Wrote:  ^ It wouldn't be legally binding. Slavery is illegal.

the reason i said "own them" is because i watched the social network (there was literally nothing else on tv and i was too sick to really care since it's kind of funny) and basically, if zuckerberg settled then the people sueing him would enter into a non-disclosure agrrement wher if they said anything bad about him or facebook then zuckerberg would pretty much own his kids

[mralexo333]

That reminds of when they said at my school that there was a new state law that said that ANY form of bullying, whether verbal or physical, would result in the cops coming over. Bullshit. They are turning kids into pussies. In fact, I rember that last year (6th grade) someone got pantsed and the cops came over. *sigh* omfg

[Slick]

So if another individual decides to pull a gun or knife on you, you're not allowed to defend your life. In which case, the victim can likely end up being injured or dead. Which means they'll get a nice letter from the court, get sued and lose most of their budget funds.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure their dumb ass rule is just going to backfire on them, only in a worst way

[EntityCubed]

Fighting is sometimes the best solution, I take karate for a reason.
Your principal is just scared that his school might be on the media, or whatever he is thinking.
@Slick, that is so true, it will backfire sometime.

[Kundalini]

My school has a policy like that too. If I get fined, I'm movin to other schools.

[AnonBrony]

(01-12-2013 10:11 AM)Hero Wrote:  During the announcements at my school, my school's vice principal said that getting into any sort of fight with anybody, self-defense or not, will lead to a $200 fine for assault and a 3-day suspension. If you get in a second or third fight, you could be arrested and taken off campus, fined for a larger amount of money, suspended longer, and/or sent to alternative school. He also said that no matter what the other person has done to you, even if they were bullying or harassing you, there will always be consequences if you choose to fight, and the staff wants you to report whoever is harassing you so they can handle the problem for you.

What do you think about this new school rule?

I'm glad my school doesn't do that.

[Trekkie_Aspie]

Oh my fucking god. They're idiots. That's what I think of them.

[LadyKira]

(01-12-2013 10:11 AM)Hero Wrote:  During the announcements at my school, my school's vice principal said that getting into any sort of fight with anybody, self-defense or not, will lead to a $200 fine for assault and a 3-day suspension. If you get in a second or third fight, you could be arrested and taken off campus, fined for a larger amount of money, suspended longer, and/or sent to alternative school. He also said that no matter what the other person has done to you, even if they were bullying or harassing you, there will always be consequences if you choose to fight, and the staff wants you to report whoever is harassing you so they can handle the problem for you.

What do you think about this new rule?

That's just completely idiotic! I mean what if someone was trying to hit you with something hard?! Plus what if no one was near you? School has complete idiots!