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Things which you find weird about humans/ourselv/yourself
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LiptomaticMate
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Things which you find weird about humans/ourselv/yourself
Have you felt ever that if/when you've/your/been depressed, down or just grimy, you kind of never get tired of kindness from people, while when nothing bothers you and everything is great, kindness kinda bothers you. You get sort of fed up with it, and sometimes you seek people who give more a "flighty" attitude more arrogant and more rude - maybe?
Have you maybe felt this, I know I shouldn't feel this way sometimes, but in some occasions this is just how it is for me, even though I know it's as wrong as wrong can be. :(
Have you ever experienced something like this?
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Also, please post some of the things which you find is quite so weird with "our" human attitude/actions etc, or yourself. Just some weird stuff with us/you?
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I don't know. It's been years since I've felt that "everything is great," and my memory is not the best.
Also, the common belief that the definition of maturity is when someone stops asserting they are mature. It's stupid, because then if you say you aren't you are implying that you are, and of course therefore you aren't. I am guilty of believing this, as are many others.
Hello, traveler.
This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.
Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"
Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.
People are allowed to change their views.
Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.
If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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RE: Things which you find weird about humans/ourselv/yourself
(01-05-2013 10:24 AM)planetfall666 Wrote: I don't know. It's been years since I've felt that "everything is great," and my memory is not the best.
Also, the common belief that the definition of maturity is when someone stops asserting they are mature. It's stupid, because then if you say you aren't you are implying that you are, and of course therefore you aren't. I am guilty of believing this, as are many others.
So what you are trying to say is that when people stop telling others how they are mature, that is when they become mature. And when you say you aren't mature then you actually are mature. Confusing if you ask me? Sorry please explain again, my brain you seeee doesn't always listen to me.
Also maturity I don't really find that much of an interest in, I enjoy my childishness.  What about you?!
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RE: Things which you find weird about humans/ourselv/yourself
(01-05-2013 10:29 AM)LiptomaticMate Wrote: So what you are trying to say is that when people stop telling others how they are mature, that is when they become mature. And when you say you aren't mature then you actually are mature. Confusing if you ask me? Sorry please explain again, my brain you seeee doesn't always listen to me.
Also maturity I don't really find that much of an interest in, I enjoy my childishness. What about you?!
The whole problem with that model of maturity is that maturity implies immaturity and vise-versa, so people (read: jerks) get to pick and choose who gets the "mature" and "immature" sides.
I don't see maturity and childishness as separate things. If you are naturally "childish," I consider it immature to deny that and try to change. Naturally this is the opposite of everyone else's beliefs. There are plenty of qualities that I see in children that I'd like to see more often in teens and adults.
Hello, traveler.
This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.
Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"
Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.
People are allowed to change their views.
Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.
If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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Maturity is overrated.
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RE: Things which you find weird about humans/ourselv/yourself
Every once in a while, I stop and realize I'm a short-lived, squishy gasbag, and it makes me feel out of place for the rest of the day.
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I think childishness is the way to go, aren't we all born with it?
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Things which you find weird about humans/ourselv/yourself
I always like kindness from people, as long as it's genuine.
Sometimes I might enjoy a bit of conflict as well (it can be interesting), but I never get tired of kindness.
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Well, I don't really think I should be wanting conflict, if not for the purpose of hearing your opinions, but only for the sake of doing it. Then no.
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