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I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

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Although I've been lurking around for 2 weeks before I decided to register..

There was a situation a few months ago where I got annoyed in art class. I wanted to try and find more references on the net, so I had a better idea of what I was doing. They wouldn't let me because they said there were no computers in the art classes, so I asked if I could go down to learning support to use those computers, and simply because they weren't sure if people were using them or not or "had permission", or something like no one else being there, they wouldn't let me. I didn't think it was a good enough reason (they didn't even let me check ffs, and I'm 17 years old so I don't need supervision), so I ended up doing nothing.

Hours later after that I begun to question myself is if there's actually any good reasons to hate school, typing something like "school sucks" at home. I already disliked the concept of grades/qualifications, but the anti-school sites and people gave me more of an eye opener.

I then realised that my time "wastage" isn't as bad as I think it was. I sometimes like to ask questions/common misconceptions in search engines.
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2012 10:28 AM by TreyLina.)
12-02-2012 05:28 AM
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Welcome to School Survival.

The reason school is so abrasive to free thought (at times) is because it is intended to fit people into a certain mold. You may choose what you're changed into, but you can't choose not to be changed without leaving or resisting.

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12-02-2012 09:22 AM
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Well, I'll write up my story of being in school so far. I got lazy about it after dinner...

When I was young (like 5 years old), I used to be excited for Primary school. I wasn't exactly sure what it would be like, but since it was "new", it was exciting to me. I got frustrated over countless mistakes and feared getting behind in class. I had got bullied a lot during my early school years, people would call me a "crybaby" and I'd challenge myself not to cry everyday. People would find other ways to tease me as well. I admit, I did a few stupid things like look under the toilet doors and kicked someone in the nuts for no reason and thought it was funny (just to clarify, those events aren't connected). I didn't know it was such a sensitive area and I would never do such a thing now, I feel ashamed just mentioning it.

A few years later I ignored and avoided almost everyone. I would usually talk with the playground supervisors because almost everyone else was shit to talk to, as they would interrogate me about personal things, or make up bullshit from something they percieve about me which was never true, or wanted to do something I wasn't interested in. Even when I ignored, a lot of kids just wanted to provoke me other ways because they thought it was funny. You could say I was an isolated person, though it didn't affect me much because I would just try to press them out of my mind, being in my own world in the playground. I'd talk to myself at times or just find places to mess around in. I think I was already an introvert, but all of that crap didn't help me become more social at all, I had just became more encased in my own mind. I really believe that schools are one of the worst places to socialise. There would be some people I'd talk to, though.

I eventually got bored of Primary school, and stopped caring for free time. I also got annoyed when so-called "golden time" had some activity week table. If you're not choosing what you want to do, how is it golden time? Also, I could do more of what I wanted at home thanks to a faster internet connection. I really beilive the internet has helped me speak out my thoughts, and helped me get out of my immaturity about some things earlier than others.

I wasn't really scared of the transition to Secondary school. Since people are older there, they'd be less immature, so what's there for people to be scared of? I got provoked much less in Secondary school, though some classmates disliked me for "not doing work" because it's "not fair". Then some of them would talk about my anger breakouts from Primary school to their friends, so then they'd tried to tease me. I just turned off to them whenever they tried to talk to me. When it came to bullying in Secondary, it was usually the people of my age or younger. Telling on them was a waste of time, both in Primary and secondary. The teachers would just force them to say sorry. Then you'd hear their monotonous "I'm sorruh" voice. I wasn't exactly that great at fighting, and was turned off by it because "the teachers said so" but now I realise it's a waste of time to tell on them. I think deep down I hated school back then too, but was afraid to say it, or didn't know how to explain. But I certainly didn't feel much for it. I had no desire to learn for a long time. I also fell into embarrassing habits for a while. I also always lied about homework, though tbh I still do that sometimes and don't regret it much.

The last years have been the biggest impacts of my mind. I now deeply regret ever going to school in the first place, I wish my parents encouraged me to explore, ask and find answers myself. For a while they didn't like I asked questions about everything and found it annoying. Way to making me feel like nothing. They think I would've done jack-shit if I was at home, but the way school tries to make you ""learn"" (more like remember and regurgitate) didn't help with that at all. Now I usually have questions on my mind and use a search engine to answer them. I admit my internet addiction is probably not much of a healthy thing, but it's helped in some aspects too, making me less insane and let me speak my mind more easily. People need to encourage others to find answers themselves, and tell them that mistakes are okay.

Ok, it's really late. I'll write more after I've slept, of what more I think of my parents and their experiences of school. Goodnight.
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2012 11:30 AM by TreyLina.)
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^I understand what it feels like to be completely alone. The only time I had a friend, she just hung out with me for a week or 2 so she could be bitchy to me to gain popularity. I hate bullies, on friday one of them stuffed my head into a FULL toilet. And another time a gang ripped off my clothing and stuffed me into a dumpster and shoveld trash inyo my mouth. I couldnt even bite their hands for self defense, they wore gloves. Bullies suck ass! I fucking hate them. Being alone also sucks, I know how it feels, the only family I have is my guinea pig, moms in jail for abuseing me and burning my building with me tied to my bed and trying to get me with a gun, dad died 9 years ago, aunt thinks I am like the stereotype for highland park citizens (the self procalimed city within detroit that makes detroit look bad) and i dont even have an apartment. So I know how much being alone sucks. And welcome to s.s.
12-02-2012 12:38 PM
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Welcome.
Dont regret going to school, it opened your eyes, and that alone for me was worth it,

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So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
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I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
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Ow, I haven't been bullied that bad. Worst case scenarios for me were snowballers stalking me (and throwing snowballs at me ofc) when I was walking home. I tend to avoid much people. I don't really feel that bad for feeling alone, I sort of embraced it for a while as I could relax and think to myself, and no arguments about who gets/who does what. But if I just stay by myself forever, I'm not going to get much further in later life. One of my friends left school and went homeschooling because she was getting bullied too much. I turn into escapist mode usually when I have no one to talk to. Then I usually have to finish what I'm doing first to chat properly. Or I usually can't talk unless I have something actually in mind. It's a shame you had a crazy mother. My parents are okay for the most part.
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Welcome
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(12-03-2012 12:17 AM)TreyLina Wrote:  @SomeRandomHuman

Ow, I haven't been bullied that bad. Worst case scenarios for me were snowballers stalking me (and throwing snowballs at me ofc) when I was walking home. I tend to avoid much people. I don't really feel that bad for feeling alone, I sort of embraced it for a while as I could relax and think to myself, and no arguments about who gets/who does what. But if I just stay by myself forever, I'm not going to get much further in later life. One of my friends left school and went homeschooling because she was getting bullied too much. I turn into escapist mode usually when I have no one to talk to. Then I usually have to finish what I'm doing first to chat properly. Or I usually can't talk unless I have something actually in mind. It's a shame you had a crazy mother. My parents are okay for the most part.
I still understand what is happening to you. Yeah, before I found this site I had nobody to talk to. And I accually began to enjoy being alone, like you have. But you will now have people to talk to on this site! Having a crazy mom does suck, but hey, shes in jail now and away from me! I highly reccommend you get a guinea pig, I got one first thing when mom was flung in jail, and she is great company. She is what I live for, without her, I woulda killed myself by now. Guinea pigs are wonderful company, it may sound odd, but she is a great friend, and much better then having a human friend would be. And yes, being alone will probally make you not go that far in life. But you can talk to everybody here, s.s has made me feel not alone anymore, it will probally do the same for you. It is big enough here for there to be people to talk to, but there are few enough for you to get to know everyone.
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Hi there, welcome! Pirate

I don't think internet 'addiction' is a bad thing... it's the best place to find information, so it's not wonder it's 'addictive'. Now, if all you were doing on it was browsing funny videos and checking Facebook every 5 minutes, that's another matter entirely. Giggle

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Haha, I actually have two guinea pigs called Hermes and Melvin. We take care of them somewhat equally. Usually me, one of my brothers or Dad feeds them. I love guinea pigs. I have a distant relationship with someone and he is eager to meet me irl, (no he's not a pedo, I've seen him plenty of times on cam so he's legit lol). I told him about this website but he found it wierd, though he was tired when he saw it, but he does have a distaste for school. I want to convince him to leave so he can earn money, and actually get experience (where you're actually more likely to get a job). He says he only stays on because of qualifications, but I think 2 more years is too much. He thinks that he will only be able to get a crappy job if he leaves.
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Its good that you have piggies. They are awesome. Its good you have a friend and may meet him irl. And what are you trying to get him to stop?
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Welcome. More power t' you for sharin' your story...I port school five years ago and still can't do that. You're bloody brave, you know that?

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