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what qualifies something as "art"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Autumn_Rhythm.jpg

wtf is that? "art?"
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what qualifies something as "art"?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. In my unprofessional opinion, that does not constitute art, but in someone else's, it might. Everything's subjective.

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what qualifies something as "art"?

That's called abstract art. I kinda like the squiggles and texture of the thing. Would look nice as a tiled carpet or something.

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what qualifies something as "art"?

^ Agreed. It's always bothered me how fast people are to bash abstract paintings but have no problem with patterned rugs. Not saying that you were, just something I thought of.

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This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

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what qualifies something as "art"?

There is no such thing as true art except everything, your space is art, your universe is art, your dimension is art, your galaxy is art, your solar system is art, your world is art, your continent is art, your country is art, your house is art, you are art, your atoms are art. Everything and anything except nothing is art.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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RE: what qualifies something as "art"?

It has to be something that can be interpreted and/or discussed. And also the artist has to at least put some time, work and effort into it, so a blank canvas or some found piece of trash is a no-no.

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what qualifies something as "art"?

well sure you can define it however you want but.. somethings obviously took no time, skill, and effort to make, like the garbage shown in the link, shouldn't there be a word (like art) reserved for things that actually takes skill and effort?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNogdpHeu...plpp_video

don't know if real or fake
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RE: what qualifies something as "art"?

Art is whatever you want it to be, and the abstract art you linked to is most definitely art. It's a Jackson Pollock and could be worth several hundred million dollars. I'm not joking. According to the NewYork Times a Pollock sold for 140 million dollars back in 06' making it the second most expensive piece of art sold at private auction and prices in the art trade are still rising.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/arts/d...2drip.html
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RE: what qualifies something as "art"?

If that (the o.p's link) is art, my guinea pig turd and piss coated bed is art...
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RE: what qualifies something as "art"?

You guys are obviously not artists. That is most definitely art you uncultured fucks.
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what qualifies something as "art"?

why would you pay millions of dollars for something a pig with diarrhea could have made
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RE: what qualifies something as "art"?

(12-07-2012 01:20 PM)Thought Criminal Wrote:  You guys are obviously not artists. That is most definitely art you uncultured fucks.

I agree as much as possible with this quote right here. I hate it when some little kid doesn't think that something you made is art just because he doesn't get what it's about or referencing.

And by the way, art is basically anything that you can get people to buy for realy money. So the Iphone, art. Cinderblocks, art. Dirt, art. Old money that is from the 17th century, art.

So nobody really cares if you think that abstract art is real art or not, not until you become the president of a country that loves art that is.

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Quote:I agree as much as possible with this quote right here. I hate it when some little kid doesn't think that something you made is art just because he doesn't get what it's about or referencing.
Why does it always have to be "some little kid"? Plenty of older people don't appreciate that as art either. Some "little kid" would probably appreciate it as art, then. So age is irrelevant here.

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(12-08-2012 01:49 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:I agree as much as possible with this quote right here. I hate it when some little kid doesn't think that something you made is art just because he doesn't get what it's about or referencing.
Why does it always have to be "some little kid"? Plenty of older people don't appreciate that as art either. Some "little kid" would probably appreciate it as art, then. So age is irrelevant here.

it always has to be "some little kid" because that is nicer than saying "some idiot"...and because that's always the first thing that comes to mind since i come across more kids that hate things than adults...also, here are a few other reasons:

Because...shut up!
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what qualifies something as "art"?

Nicer to whom? Not to little kids, that's for sure.

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(12-08-2012 01:59 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Nicer to whom? Not to little kids, that's for sure.

more socially acceptable? (i'll keep offering things until we agree on something lol)

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what qualifies something as "art"?

More socially acceptable everywhere except here, perhaps. Razz

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I actually think little kids are some of the most appreciative of art, especially when they create it themselves.

At least I preserved some of my creativity. I can't say the same for my apathetic peers.

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RE: what qualifies something as "art"?

Idc what art is but if you pay millions for completley abstract art you are a fucking idiot.

I like it, just some of it is so fucking basic it shouldn't be worth a lot.

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That piece is good for a rug.
Not much more, in my opinion.
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what qualifies something as "art"?

I like it, but I most certainly would not pay tons of money for it.

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what qualifies something as "art"?

people have evolved to like the sight of a stream running through a forest, clear lighting or a clear sky, and we've evolved a disgust response to things that might carry disease. and that thing looks like the aftermath of an explosive diarrea. why would you even want to step on that?
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RE: what qualifies something as "art"?

the beginning of potato's post literally made me think he might be a spambot, on account of their usually incoherent "sentences" but then i realized he is just one of those people who doesn't think that abstract art looks kinda cool

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what qualifies something as "art"?

one piece does not represent an entire genre
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RE: what qualifies something as "art"?

(12-18-2012 08:22 AM)Heil_Kaiba8921 Wrote:  the beginning of potato's post literally made me think he might be a spambot, on account of their usually incoherent "sentences" but then i realized he is just one of those people who doesn't think that abstract art looks kinda cool

Some abstract art can be nice, but this one is just ugly.
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