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What's the deal

...with writers always going, "OMG YOU HAVE TO REWRITE YOUR SHIT, ALWAYS."

I don't know. Maybe I'm really vain and self-conceited, but my stories never did need a complete rewrite -- a tweak here, a shitty description removed there, a useless character wiped out over yonder, but never writing the whole thing from zero.

I rarely write from an outline; I start out knowing the beginning, the end, and the characters. Despite that, my plots never go wandering and whatever plotholes arise are easily fixed afterwards.

And what's really frustrating is that I believe myself to be a bad writer because I don't do rewrites.

Fuck.

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10-20-2010 03:55 AM
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I hear ya, my creative writing teacher (arrogant bitch, btw) in high school always told me that my rough and final drafts were too similar and I should be changing pretty much everything. I told her that I only wrote when I was "in the zone" and it would turn out better, and if I tried to go back and change things too much, I'd second guess myself and it would end up shitty.

Basically, editing is good. Revising is good. But if you like something the way it its, leave it the way it is. Don't let anyone tell you that writing "has to be done a certain way" because if all writers listened to that advice we'd still be copying Bible stories onto papyrus or something.

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10-20-2010 04:16 AM
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Re: What's the deal

I think people put things out of context. If your writing a short story, or a poem, or a paper....editing...revising....all are extremely important.

When it comes to writing a novel....Writing is rewriting.

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10-21-2010 04:35 PM
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I once read Stephen King's On Writing. He never even uses an outline. He says it makes a story too blocky. And he never has a "Main plot" set out, his stories aren't plot centered, but character centered.

Who am I going to listen to? Stephen King? Or some wanna be writer that took a teaching job because she couldn't sell her shit for a reasonable profit? I mean, people are different, and some people may work better with plots and outlines, but the point is, not everyone does better with it.

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10-22-2010 10:37 AM
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