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An alternative? Is it?
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An alternative? Is it?

I know I've been posting a lot of thread lately and It's mainly because I'm in a very shitty period at school and I think it was finally time to write a post here - get some answers and maybe to cover the need of everyone.

So in my country GED; unschooled, does not exist. However, homeschooled does, but the problem with this is that I am still being forced to learn stuff which I don't want to learn. That way I haven't accomplished almost nothing. Which sucks!

So I have been pondering for a short while and realized that I really need people's help on this forum.

When someone decides to be homeschooled, there is almost no point. Almost <----

IF unschooled and GED does not exist what do I do?

I feel like my complete childhood is spent on studying, doing homwork, tests, etc.

What about job people, if I quit school??
ANy answers?

Quote:The best thing would be if all haters for school became millioners

All tips, advice everything is accepted.
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What country are you in?

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RE: An alternative? Is it?

Are the tests/markers/syllabi for homeschooling easy, obvious and standardized? If so, find out exactly what you would need to know or do for these, and write down or type up the information you would need for easy reference, use it to study/on any possible "assignments" and then study what you want.
2.????
3.Profit!

Unless this would be more about what your parents expect you to learn, that's a whole different story that will vary personally.

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U.S. Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, Tinker v. Des Moines (1969) Wrote:In our system, state-operated schools may not be enclaves of totalitarianism. School officials do not possess absolute authority over their students. Students in school as well as out of school are "persons" under our Constitution."
Rebelnerd Wrote:Human rights are being violated by US law enforcement. This is what the media is here for, you're supposed to be the watchdogs! You're supposed to stand up for the downtrodden, not belittle them as though all their problems amount to nothing more than some angry glares toward parents and sabotaging their computers.
I've seen so much shit done to youth and for some reason, this has made me angrier than I've felt in years. Abuse and oppression happens all over the world. It's a terrible reality of modern society, but we've all accepted that it happens and we're doing what we can to fight it and build a better world.
But this...this mindless, condescending disrespect toward people who have no legal voice with which to defend themselves, this reduction of parents' betrayal into a cheap crack about kids being computer-savvy...it's like watching a surgeon joke about life insurance while his patient bleeds to death on the operating table. The media's job is to protect society from oppression and they've drawn a clear line between the people worth protecting and the people that don't matter. How can they people sleep at night?

You're a journalist. DO. YOUR. FUCKING. JOB.

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(02-09-2012 02:14 PM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  The only solution is democratic self-paced education where students can excel in what they are good at and work on what their not if necessary, AT THEIR OWN DAMN PACE IN THEIR OWN DAMN WAY.



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An alternative? Is it?

Should I be writing where I live straight on the forum, isn't that like against the rules. I guess I'll avoid saying anything about where I live to avoid any mates finding this accidentally and reading this. So I can't give you anything closer then Europe. :(
I think that maybe the smartest thing for me would be to make a website and earn money from it. Smile
Site Founder, can I ask how old you are and how old you were when you made this website?
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Quote:Should I be writing where I live straight on the forum, isn't that like against the rules. I guess I'll avoid saying anything about where I live to avoid any mates finding this accidentally and reading this. So I can't give you anything closer then Europe. :(
OK. That doesn't help though. Razz

Go to the wiki and look up your country and see if there's a page for it or not.

There's no real harm in telling people what country you're in though, as long as you don't narrow it down to your town and street address. Razz

Quote:I think that maybe the smartest thing for me would be to make a website and earn money from it.
Good idea. Start now, and just remember it takes a long time for the money to start rolling in (assuming you've done everything else right).

Quote:Site Founder, can I ask how old you are and how old you were when you made this website?
I was 16 when I started it, and I'm 30 now.

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RE: An alternative? Is it?

(10-19-2012 11:58 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:Should I be writing where I live straight on the forum, isn't that like against the rules. I guess I'll avoid saying anything about where I live to avoid any mates finding this accidentally and reading this. So I can't give you anything closer then Europe. :(
OK. That doesn't help though. Razz

Go to the wiki and look up your country and see if there's a page for it or not.

There's no real harm in telling people what country you're in though, as long as you don't narrow it down to your town and street address. Razz

Quote:I think that maybe the smartest thing for me would be to make a website and earn money from it.
Good idea. Start now, and just remember it takes a long time for the money to start rolling in (assuming you've done everything else right).

Quote:Site Founder, can I ask how old you are and how old you were when you made this website?
I was 16 when I started it, and I'm 30 now.

I'll check and see if I can find something. Hope I find something. Smile
I read all of these question on this forum, and honestly the saddest thing of all is this one
Quote:Thanks for the diploma… can I have my childhood back?
- The user: Heil_Kaiba8921 --> posted this.

I am listening to music right now, and when I read it, it really made me sad. When thinking back 10 years now I can understand that I've got 10 years more to go to start working with psychology. 10 more years to go, I am afraid that I must find an alternative to this.

When I ask my friends why they go to school, all they answer is: Good grader = good job = money.

But what if it isn't the money and the grades and the job which interest me. It's my hobbies, my ideas, my dreams and my plans which I care about....

Seriousely, I am kinda sad-'ish now, not crying though, just kinda down.

I am 16 years now actually, have started a website, working on it, but hope to make it a success before turning 18. Hopefully. Hope I have. Smile

What kind of work do you do? How did you personally deal with the school. I guess your earning quite a bit from this website now, and it's great Wink
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(10-19-2012 11:58 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:Should I be writing where I live straight on the forum, isn't that like against the rules. I guess I'll avoid saying anything about where I live to avoid any mates finding this accidentally and reading this. So I can't give you anything closer then Europe. :(
OK. That doesn't help though. Razz

Go to the wiki and look up your country and see if there's a page for it or not.

There's no real harm in telling people what country you're in though, as long as you don't narrow it down to your town and street address. Razz

Quote:I think that maybe the smartest thing for me would be to make a website and earn money from it.
Good idea. Start now, and just remember it takes a long time for the money to start rolling in (assuming you've done everything else right).

Quote:Site Founder, can I ask how old you are and how old you were when you made this website?
I was 16 when I started it, and I'm 30 now.

Sorry placed almost all of my reply in a quote, just read the quote below the quote. And the two lines above the quote below the top quote.
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lol. You can edit your post if you want. I'd do it, but I'm not sure which part of that bottom quote should be in or out of quotes.

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Done. I any reply to my reply?
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Quote:When thinking back 10 years now I can understand that I've got 10 years more to go to start working with psychology. 10 more years to go, I am afraid that I must find an alternative to this.
Why 10 years? Learn as much as you can now, then later on if you want to take a psychology course, you'll already know a lot of it and can accelerate the course (I'm pretty sure a lot of universities/colleges have that kind of option).

Quote:But what if it isn't the money and the grades and the job which interest me. It's my hobbies, my ideas, my dreams and my plans which I care about....
Same here.

Quote:Seriousely, I am kinda sad-'ish now, not crying though, just kinda down.
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Quote:I am 16 years now actually, have started a website, working on it, but hope to make it a success before turning 18. Hopefully. Hope I have.
Can I see? Smile

Quote:What kind of work do you do?
Very little. xD
I do whatever's necessary on my sites whenever I feel like it, basically.

Quote:How did you personally deal with the school.
I basically ignored the crap as much as possible, just did what was necessary to get by, and tried not to let it invade my brain. When that wasn't working anymore, I made this site to rant about it. xD

Quote:I guess your earning quite a bit from this website now, and it's great
Thanks Smile
This one and a few others actually.

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(10-21-2012 01:09 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:When thinking back 10 years now I can understand that I've got 10 years more to go to start working with psychology. 10 more years to go, I am afraid that I must find an alternative to this.
Why 10 years? Learn as much as you can now, then later on if you want to take a psychology course, you'll already know a lot of it and can accelerate the course (I'm pretty sure a lot of universities/colleges have that kind of option).

Quote:But what if it isn't the money and the grades and the job which interest me. It's my hobbies, my ideas, my dreams and my plans which I care about....
Same here.

Quote:Seriousely, I am kinda sad-'ish now, not crying though, just kinda down.
Hug

Quote:I am 16 years now actually, have started a website, working on it, but hope to make it a success before turning 18. Hopefully. Hope I have.
Can I see? Smile

Quote:What kind of work do you do?
Very little. xD
I do whatever's necessary on my sites whenever I feel like it, basically.

Quote:How did you personally deal with the school.
I basically ignored the crap as much as possible, just did what was necessary to get by, and tried not to let it invade my brain. When that wasn't working anymore, I made this site to rant about it. xD

Quote:I guess your earning quite a bit from this website now, and it's great
Thanks Smile
This one and a few others actually.


I am working on it locally now, I don't have a hosting plan yet, because by doing so I avoid paying while finishing the site. I think I am going to make a thread maybe. Tell me your opinions, but that's when I make it done.

So you live almost completely on your websites? Biggrin
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Quote:I am working on it locally now, I don't have a hosting plan yet, because by doing so I avoid paying while finishing the site. I think I am going to make a thread maybe. Tell me your opinions, but that's when I make it done.
Smart. Smile
Well, having it hosted somewhere online as early as possible can also help for SEO, since it takes time for you to get search rankings and whatnot. What's the site about?

Quote:So you live almost completely on your websites?
Yup. Smile

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(10-21-2012 11:13 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:I am working on it locally now, I don't have a hosting plan yet, because by doing so I avoid paying while finishing the site. I think I am going to make a thread maybe. Tell me your opinions, but that's when I make it done.
Smart. Smile
Well, having it hosted somewhere online as early as possible can also help for SEO, since it takes time for you to get search rankings and whatnot. What's the site about?

I have bought a domain though. My budget is low right now so I am forced to wait until I finish the website. However, it's not far from finished Smile Have you heard of lifehacker.com, it's sort of like that, but my goal is to make it SPECIAL. One of a kind, but I'm sending you a link when I'm done with it. Maybe I could even get some visitors from this site Biggrin

Quote:So you live almost completely on your websites?
Yup. Smile

THAT-----IS-----SICK. Like Mark Zuckerburg. Almostly.... SmileD Biggrin
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Quote:I have bought a domain though. My budget is low right now so I am forced to wait until I finish the website. However, it's not far from finished Have you heard of lifehacker.com, it's sort of like that, but my goal is to make it SPECIAL. One of a kind, but I'm sending you a link when I'm done with it. Maybe I could even get some visitors from this site
Sounds like the sort of thing I'd be interested in. Hmm.

Quote:THAT-----IS-----SICK. Like Mark Zuckerburg. Almostly....
lol, I'm not a billionaire though. I have no idea what I'd do with that much money... I wouldn't want the attention either... I'd be all like "LEAVE ME ALONE!"... xD

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(10-23-2012 03:49 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:I have bought a domain though. My budget is low right now so I am forced to wait until I finish the website. However, it's not far from finished Have you heard of lifehacker.com, it's sort of like that, but my goal is to make it SPECIAL. One of a kind, but I'm sending you a link when I'm done with it. Maybe I could even get some visitors from this site
Sounds like the sort of thing I'd be interested in. Hmm.

Quote:THAT-----IS-----SICK. Like Mark Zuckerburg. Almostly....
lol, I'm not a billionaire though. I have no idea what I'd do with that much money... I wouldn't want the attention either... I'd be all like "LEAVE ME ALONE!"... xD

I guess it would be very tiresome with all that money, all that popularity, and all those paparazzis. However, I think it would have been fun maybe the first 3-5 days up to 1 week. I would spend 200$ dollar on only popcorn and filled a complete room with it Biggrin Biggrin Biggrin

If I ever get that much money, which is almost 0,000000000000001 % I will donate them to alternative learning methods - not all OF COURSE.

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