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How come when someone's been murdered they all of a sudden become "innocent"?
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How come when someone's been murdered they all of a sudden become "innocent"?

Whenever you hear about someone who's been murdered they're always described as "innocent". But not everyone who's ever been murdered could've been innocent. That's impossible. Like for example, I would guess that at least one person who was murdered in the holocaust was a rapist, at least one. But people seem incapable of thinking about that. No, everyone who's ever had their life taken away from them, against their will, was innocent. Why can't people accept that sometimes those who been murdered weren't innocent? It just seems delusional to deny it.

I don't believe people deserve to be murdered either by the way. Just so you know. I just don't get this.
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RE: How come when someone's been murdered they all of a sudden become "innocent"?

I have often wondered exactly what it is that we owe the dead. Perhaps I'll write a post about it? Regardless, I do see your point.

Lets take your example of the rapist murdered in the holocaust. Was this rapist killed for being a rapist, or was he killed for being a Jew? One is quite fundamentally different then the other morally (Or at least I'd hope most people would agree with that) If he was killed for being a rapist then it would be perhaps a murder of justice; and can be rationalized to some degree that he was not innocent. Being killed for the mere fact of being a jew, ignorant of his other crimes; really can't be seen rationally as justice.

It's of course a matter of perspective. If you call your mom a bitch, and she stabs you to death for it. (Besides proving your point) She has killed in her mind someone not innocent. Yet in the view of the perspective of our society...you would seem totally innocent.

TL;DR It is not that a person is truly innocent of all crimes the moment they are dead...it's just that from a modern social perspective: there is very little one can do that can be deserving of death.

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How come when someone's been murdered they all of a sudden become "innocent"?

Innocent of what exactly? Nobody's completely innocent, everyone has done at least one bad thing in their life. Except babies I guess, but only 'cause they haven't had a chance yet.

But like Vatman said, 99.9999% of the time they don't deserve to die. Well, everyone dies eventually anyway, so I guess everyone deserves it since it's bound to happen... but er. Nobody deserves to die in a horrible way? Or something.

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RE: How come when someone's been murdered they all of a sudden become "innocent"?

^ Given the current 'personal' climate, starvation is inveitable in the third world...do third world kids deserve to starve to death/die of thirst/die of chloera?

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RE: How come when someone's been murdered they all of a sudden become "innocent"?

I used to live in Traverse City and the girl named Carly Lewis got murdered. I remember everyone was all sad and shit, as they had a right to be, but I didnt know her at all as she was much younger than I, and I was not originaly from TC. But a few of my friends knew her from younger siblings and shit and one day smoking after they found her body my buddy said that his girlfriend went to school with her and apparently she was a world class bitch. Sure, I guess that doesnt warrent her getting fatally getting stabbed "four to seven times" but its not like she was a great loss to humanity.

Or commited suicide for that matter?

Case and point; Amanda Todd

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How come when someone's been murdered they all of a sudden become "innocent"?

"Case and point; Amanda Todd"
Shit, just about to say that.

I think in most cultures it is considered wrong to disrespect the dead in any way. Anyway, just the same way we think back to the "good times" and our brains chose to forget all of the bad shit, we tend to think only good thoughts about the dead and forget the bad stuff, psychologically speaking.

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