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Aya Offline

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Actually it's the banks house until I pay off the mortgage.

Only a portion of the house (which I pay off every year in property taxes) belongs to the government.
10-23-2010 03:27 AM
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BaronVonStrangle Wrote:Many of you here aren't in the best of relationships with your parents. They are either too restrictive, imposing, nazi or smell funny and look like Adrian Chiles. So I ask you - where is the limit? If you had kids of your own, how far would you go with raising them?

Although I would most likely never have children due to my asexuality (though there is still an option of adoption), I have the idea of how I would raise them. As first, I would not "discipline" them, because discipline means obedience and obedience is wrong, in my opinion, wrong on many levels. Revolutionary spirit is of crucial importance, will to rebel and resist, protect your rights and protect the rights of the others, of the weak, are the values I would teach my children of, just among the values such as love, peace, equality, freedom. I would expect of my children to be creative, to appreciate this values and to fight for liberty for everyone, the liberty which ends where the other's liberty begins. That is my idea of raising children. It would also be important for me to be seen as someone equal by children, as their friend, to support them when support is needed, offer them advise etc.

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02-06-2011 06:54 PM
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Actually, today, my parents have little to no restrictions on me. I have no curfew, I can eat what I want, do what I want, and hang out with whom I want and I don't have to report to them. But up until I was 12, my parents were really strict. Well, not Nazi-like, but my mother gave me hell until I found out how to think for myself. My father was the same way; he was hard on me because I was a doormat that let everyone take advantage of me and was afraid to take control of my own life. But after I learned their intended lessons, I was left alone to fend for myself. Since then, my parents haven't cared what I've done so long as I take responsibility for my actions. I'd say no matter how many fucked up times we've had, it all turned out okay.
02-07-2011 09:59 AM
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If I were to have kid(s), I would pretty much allow them to do whatever they wanted.

I would explain to them the errors of their ways when I thought they were doing something stupid, and I would show them as much proof as I could to support my argument, but beyond that, I wouldn't give a single fuck...

And I wouldn't waste too much time explaining what I thought if I didn't really think it was that important. In other words, I wouldn't bother explaining why jumping on the bed is a terrible idea for more than a few minutes. If they wanted to continue, I'd let them... If they fall off, so be it. If they get seriously injured, that's their own damn fault, and I'll get the keys and drive 'em to the hospital.

I would, however, explain why overeating and getting fat is a terrible idea for much longer. I would show them videos and pictures and all kinds of proof and explain what it's like to be fat and shit like that. That's because growing up to be fat would fucking suck for the both of us.If it came down to either forcing them to stop eating, or letting them get fat, however, I would probably just let them get fat.

(Although, I wouldn't bring them to McDonalds every day either. I probably wouldn't buy shitty snack food either...)

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02-07-2011 03:13 PM
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Rebelnerd Wrote:Basically, I'd make all my "don't do that" lectures focus on actual consequences, not made-up rules. Instead of telling them not to eat three boxes of Oreos while watching TV until 4am because I said so, I'll tell them how stupid it is to ruin your body and teeth that way. The goal would be to teach them good habits without training them to obey for the sake of obeying. I want them to make their decisions based on rationality and common sense, not someone else's rules.

This. Just the only times when I would put my foot down is if the kid did something potentially very harmful to himself/others but I doubt I would have such a stupid kid anyway so hopefully I never would have to be forceful.
02-08-2011 05:22 PM
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