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I despise school and the way society is in general. I believe "God" is hocus pocus and anyone who believes in him should be sterilized (for the good of mankind) and checked for mental retardation. I also believe that morality is man made. I like existential nihilism. I recently started practising free running. I'm a vegetarian. I'm fifteen. I have lucid dreams. I've tried poly phasic sleeping, but I prefer just sleeping whenever I feel like it. (I didn't like the strict schedules.) I'm gay. My favourite book is Apt Pupil by Stephen King. I love energy drinks. The reason I became a vegetarian is because eating meat nowadays makes me feel sick. Literally. My favourite PC game is Postal 2. I use Firefox. I play guitar. Got enough? Biggrin
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Nobody should be sterilized just because of what they believe in. That's fucked up.

Clearly you have not met any nice people who believe in God. They do exist, I know a few.

Other than that, hello.

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...so is it alright if i dislike him for the first half of the things he said and not the other half?

Hello anyways

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People are allowed to feel how they feel. That's what open society is about. I'm new here too so welcome.
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I don't agree with what you said at the beginning, but I forgot about it once I read the rest.

Welcome yo.

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(10-03-2012 02:32 AM)Heil_Kaiba8921 Wrote:  ...so is it alright if i dislike him for the first half of the things he said and not the other half?
I'm not sure, I'm not sure whether to metaphorically punch him in the face or figuratively shake his hand.

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As a Christian I'm going to enjoy reading your comments reapetedly showing you get laughed at. Don't insult my religion on the media! Typing on my ps vita.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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^ Ignore this guy. He does not speak for all the world's Christians.

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I think it's funny that people want me to accept their beliefs while at the time they're shaming mine. You reap what you sow mate. And I don't hate religious people, I just believe that those who are willing to accept the most outragous things without any proof whatsoever, don't have the type of DNA beneficial for humanity. Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to pass them down.

(10-03-2012 02:32 AM)Heil_Kaiba8921 Wrote:  ...so is it alright if i dislike him for the first half of the things he said and not the other half?

Hello anyways

Of course you can partly dislike and partly like me, not everything is black and white.
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(10-03-2012 09:39 PM)Jon Wrote:  I think it's funny that people want me to accept their beliefs while at the time they're shaming mine. You reap what you sow mate. And I don't hate religious people, I just believe that those who are willing to accept the most outragous things without any proof whatsoever, don't have the type of DNA beneficial for humanity. Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to pass them down.

accept the most outrageous things...
accept the most outrageous things
accept the most outrageous things
accept the most outrageous things

I honestly hope that you don't live in America and believe in our government, or any dictator currently in power.

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(10-03-2012 09:39 PM)Jon Wrote:  I think it's funny that people want me to accept their beliefs while at the time they're shaming mine. You reap what you sow mate. And I don't hate religious people, I just believe that those who are willing to accept the most outragous things without any proof whatsoever, don't have the type of DNA beneficial for humanity. Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to pass them down.

I don't believe in god and even I think that's bullshit.

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(10-03-2012 09:39 PM)Jon Wrote:  don't have the type of DNA beneficial for humanity. Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to pass them down.
OH PLEASE DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE

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I don't believe in god! But I have a mate who does, so I learn to not go telling the world much.

Oh, and GREEN FISHFINGERS!
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(10-04-2012 06:11 AM)DoA Wrote:  
(10-03-2012 09:39 PM)Jon Wrote:  don't have the type of DNA beneficial for humanity. Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to pass them down.
OH PLEASE DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE

The ones that believe in DNA?
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(10-04-2012 07:38 AM)guts12 Wrote:  
(10-04-2012 06:11 AM)DoA Wrote:  
(10-03-2012 09:39 PM)Jon Wrote:  don't have the type of DNA beneficial for humanity. Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to pass them down.
OH PLEASE DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE

The ones that believe in DNA?
The ones that use DNA as an excuse.

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(10-03-2012 10:25 PM)Heil_Kaiba8921 Wrote:  
(10-03-2012 09:39 PM)Jon Wrote:  I think it's funny that people want me to accept their beliefs while at the time they're shaming mine. You reap what you sow mate. And I don't hate religious people, I just believe that those who are willing to accept the most outragous things without any proof whatsoever, don't have the type of DNA beneficial for humanity. Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to pass them down.

accept the most outrageous things...
accept the most outrageous things
accept the most outrageous things
accept the most outrageous things

I honestly hope that you don't live in America and believe in our government, or any dictator currently in power.
I don't live in America. I don't like the idea of a government but I've yet to find a better solution. I don't really expect people to find one either. Almost seems like we humans aren't meant to live together since we seem incapable of doing so in harmony.

(10-04-2012 12:56 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(10-03-2012 09:39 PM)Jon Wrote:  I think it's funny that people want me to accept their beliefs while at the time they're shaming mine. You reap what you sow mate. And I don't hate religious people, I just believe that those who are willing to accept the most outragous things without any proof whatsoever, don't have the type of DNA beneficial for humanity. Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to pass them down.

I don't believe in god and even I think that's bullshit.
Well you still want me to respect your beliefs, right? Whatever they may be.

(10-04-2012 06:11 AM)DoA Wrote:  
(10-03-2012 09:39 PM)Jon Wrote:  don't have the type of DNA beneficial for humanity. Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to pass them down.
OH PLEASE DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE
It's not like it's gonna happen anyway. People will breed and breed and continue having kids with mental illnesses and mental retardation, nothing I'm doing is gonna change that so chill out. It's just the result of being stuck on Earth with too many idiots for too long.

(10-04-2012 06:11 AM)guts12 Wrote:  I don't believe in god! But I have a mate who does, so I learn to not go telling the world much.

Oh, and GREEN FISHFINGERS!
Good for you.
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So you would stop billions of people to stop reproducing?

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lol. Since when do people's beliefs depend on their DNA? It doesn't work like that. People either choose their beliefs, or they are taught that way and just never question it. Nothing to do with DNA.

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(10-04-2012 06:33 PM)s Wrote:  So you would stop billions of people to stop reproducing?
If I could yes, but I can't. Sadly...

(10-04-2012 09:36 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  lol. Since when do people's beliefs depend on their DNA? It doesn't work like that. People either choose their beliefs, or they are taught that way and just never question it. Nothing to do with DNA.

A person's DNA is what makes them have a high IQ (or not) and, while there have been religious people who were smart, in general theists' IQs are lower than atheists'. Therefore, obviously, there is a connection. And nobody chooses their beliefs, that's impossible. I can't magically make myself believe in God just because I know it would be nicer to, I can't. Nobody can. I don't know why you'd think that. Unless I misunderstood you somehow.
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(10-05-2012 12:37 AM)Jon Wrote:  And nobody chooses their beliefs, that's impossible.

Um, yes people do. All the time.

(10-05-2012 12:37 AM)Jon Wrote:  I can't magically make myself believe in God just because I know it would be nicer to, I can't. Nobody can.

Bullshit. If they were persuaded and pushed hard enough with facts, evidence, and/or tugging at emotional strings, they could possibly change beliefs. I've seen multiple Atheists, Christians, and Muslims, converts from other religions or lack there of.

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(10-05-2012 12:37 AM)Jon Wrote:  
(10-04-2012 06:33 PM)s Wrote:  So you would stop billions of people to stop reproducing?
If I could yes, but I can't. Sadly...

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Actually, people can increase their IQ by exercising their braincells. Or decrease it by not using them.

And people choose their beliefs all the time. Like for example I choose to believe that people can change their IQ, I base this on studies I've read and on things I've seen. Someone else might choose not to believe it, either they have not seen the same studies, or they can choose to ignore them or whatever. There's always a choice.

IQ also isn't everything... there's also EQ, which I think is at least equally important, if not even more so. High EQ is what prevents people from doing things like abusing others and stuff. I think (could be wrong), Hitler had a high IQ, but clearly he was lacking in the EQ department.

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(10-05-2012 02:09 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Actually, people can increase their IQ by exercising their braincells. Or decrease it by not using them.

this reminds me of this

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Weird how anything can be turned into a religious debate and steer off into an alternate tangent just by one person's comment. EQ is emotional in case it wasn't clarified. Sometimes I think its funny how Christian people think their views represent "everything".
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(10-04-2012 06:33 PM)s Wrote:  So you would stop billions of people to stop reproducing?
If I could yes, but I can't. Sadly...

(10-04-2012 09:36 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  lol. Since when do people's beliefs depend on their DNA? It doesn't work like that. People either choose their beliefs, or they are taught that way and just never question it. Nothing to do with DNA.

A person's DNA is what makes them have a high IQ (or not) and, while there have been religious people who were smart, in general theists' IQs are lower than atheists'. Therefore, obviously, there is a connection. And nobody chooses their beliefs, that's impossible. I can't magically make myself believe in God just because I know it would be nicer to, I can't. Nobody can. I don't know why you'd think that. Unless I misunderstood you somehow.
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