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We need pro-schoolers to look at this now! We need good arguments now! We need to feel smarter than society again now!We need to get back on our AAAAA game because these forums have been down the hill since the wait for school to come back so we can see post! Spread this to every pro-school website there is because we need to be back in business. Those trolls got us to realize to true intelligence in our youth and true knowledge on how school is a misguided idea that could of had changes for the better! These forums will get us no where if our voices aren't heard! We must fight for ideas to be heard,one patriotized nazi at a time!MwahahaGoingcrazy

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You really want a horde of idiots here?

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Sounds fun!! Let the debate begin C:<
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Way ahead of ya. Didn't turn out the way I wanted it to...

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=237461

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How are we gonna find a bunch of pro-schoolers to argue with?
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Don't do it. We actually need to have intelligent debaters here if we're planning something this big, and all I see are the very people that would drive them away.

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(09-30-2012 10:14 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  How are we gonna find a bunch of pro-schoolers to argue with?

Follow the link.

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(09-30-2012 10:15 AM)DoA Wrote:  We actually need to have intelligent debaters here if we're planning something this big,

Are you talking about the pro-schoolers or anti-schoolers?
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(09-30-2012 10:19 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:15 AM)DoA Wrote:  We actually need to have intelligent debaters here if we're planning something this big,

Are you talking about the pro-schoolers or anti-schoolers?
I'm talking about us, here. It doesn't help that this forum can act as a philosophy-magnet some days and an idiot-magnet others.

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(09-30-2012 10:15 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:14 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  How are we gonna find a bunch of pro-schoolers to argue with?

Follow the link.

Oops, I didn't look far enough to see the pro-school arguments. Razz
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Simple,we find the biggiest school websites and just say how school sucks a bit and post the link.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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(09-30-2012 10:21 AM)DoA Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:19 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:15 AM)DoA Wrote:  We actually need to have intelligent debaters here if we're planning something this big,

Are you talking about the pro-schoolers or anti-schoolers?
I'm talking about us, here. It doesn't help that this forum can act as a philosophy-magnet some days and an idiot-magnet others.
Hmmmm.......
You do have a point. Trolls will make us look bad. But we also don't have much to lose, arguing with a few pro-schoolers. If they are intelligent enough, they should be able to see our point.

Then again, it's really not going to help our side when a bunch of idiots are calling our opponents bags of ****.

Hm.
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(09-30-2012 10:08 AM)Derchin Wrote:  Way ahead of ya. Didn't turn out the way I wanted it to...

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=237461
Then we should just do it again,except get most of the people of the site to do it,and show both the main site and the forums. Pirate2

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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(09-30-2012 10:31 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:21 AM)DoA Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:19 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:15 AM)DoA Wrote:  We actually need to have intelligent debaters here if we're planning something this big,

Are you talking about the pro-schoolers or anti-schoolers?
I'm talking about us, here. It doesn't help that this forum can act as a philosophy-magnet some days and an idiot-magnet others.
Hmmmm.......
You do have a point. Trolls will make us look bad. But we also don't have much to lose, arguing with a few pro-schoolers. If they are intelligent enough, they should be able to see our point.

Then again, it's really not going to help our side when a bunch of idiots are calling our opponents bags of ****.

Hm.
It will take time to find the right website with people ignorant, but not too ignorant. Whatever,I know we can do this,and this time Derchin and SoulRiser aren't going to be doing all the work! Giggle

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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(09-30-2012 09:49 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  You really want a horde of idiots here?

That depends on how idiotic they are.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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(09-30-2012 10:22 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:15 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:14 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  How are we gonna find a bunch of pro-schoolers to argue with?

Follow the link.

Oops, I didn't look far enough to see the pro-school arguments. Razz

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(09-30-2012 10:42 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:22 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:15 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 10:14 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  How are we gonna find a bunch of pro-schoolers to argue with?

Follow the link.

Oops, I didn't look far enough to see the pro-school arguments. Razz

...

????? I just skimmed through the top.
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There's pages worth of pro-school arguments and materials.

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I'm up for it. I don't know how well this is going to turn out though. I just have a feeling this is going to make us lOok bad.....

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(09-30-2012 10:50 AM)Derchin Wrote:  There's pages worth of pro-school arguments and materials.
Excellent.

I don't think it's that bad of an idea. Surely there will be idiots, but it shouldn't stop us. We might be able to recruit more anti-schoolers. And from the looks of it, there aren't many recent debates about the subject here.

We have good reasons for our beliefs. Our argument isn't very flawed. Quite simple: input children, output workforce. Also to note we were one of the most educated countries in the world when they added schools to the US. Didn't make sense.

How will we ever accomplish much unless we can persuade others to our point of view? If they doubt us, we can explain ourselves.
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We might need to get other places that might love school too,like some Christian or government websites.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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We should get people to come on and argue with us. We just need some good debators, and maybe try not to swear so we dont look bad.
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I don't really care that much about where the people are from as long as they're pro school.
http://www.schoolsucksproject.com Leave some comments on his recent podcast that might get him here and spread the word. Popcorn

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(09-30-2012 11:19 AM)MentalAnarchist Wrote:  I don't really care that much about where the people are from as long as they're pro school.
http://www.schoolsucksproject.com Leave some comments on his recent podcast that might get him here and spread the word. Popcorn

The 2nd video down scared the s*** out of me O___O I'm scared of everything... I think stress has shortened my lifespan by at least 5 years.
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(09-30-2012 11:25 AM)GreenLamp Wrote:  
(09-30-2012 11:19 AM)MentalAnarchist Wrote:  I don't really care that much about where the people are from as long as they're pro school.
http://www.schoolsucksproject.com Leave some comments on his recent podcast that might get him here and spread the word. Popcorn

The 2nd video down scared the s*** out of me O___O I'm scared of everything... I think stress has shortened my lifespan by at least 5 years.

Ooooooook. Giggle Hug

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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GOOD NIGHT!

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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(09-30-2012 11:19 AM)MentalAnarchist Wrote:  I don't really care that much about where the people are from as long as they're pro school.
http://www.schoolsucksproject.com Leave some comments on his recent podcast that might get him here and spread the word. Popcorn

How should I do that? Leave a comment about the podcast and mention this website? And witch podcast?
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Any podcast,all of them as long as you don't spam.Oh and I hate typing on phones.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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I also suggest putting them on the more recent ones too,that would make more sense.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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Slow down there.

We need to make sure we're idiocy-free before we go challenge the pro-schoolers who aren't. I've detected a lot of bad grammar, a lot of generalizations, and a lot of name-calling in this thread alone. We do not have the good foothold here.

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