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I believe there was once a thread dedicated to this. Very ageist, but I can't say youths would be perceived any better for drinking.

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Quote:Teen drinking is linked to injury and risky behavior.

... ummmmmm, can I revise that for you?

Being alive is related to injury and risky behavior*

ahhhh, that feels much better on my brain, thanks for letting me do that to your greatly thought out sentence.

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Drinking in general is linked to injury and risky behavior. Don't isolate teens on this.

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(09-23-2012 01:49 PM)DoA Wrote:  Drinking in general is linked to injury and risky behavior. Don't isolate teens on this.

EXACTLY. The government just wants to isolate teens and lable us as dangerous any way they can.
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I recommend using the "THANKS" button. Wink

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(09-23-2012 01:52 PM)DoA Wrote:  I recommend using the "THANKS" button. Wink

Ahh yes, a wonderful button indeed. Oldfag here not used to it Razz
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Well... I consider it old. Yeah not an oldfag.
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You've been here a while, but you're not a fag. Giggle

Technically, drinking too much can be linked to injury and risky behaviour. Not drinking small amounts... unless of course you can't handle small amounts. And are horribly irresponsible. Which could apply to the average adult just as much as the average teenager. In which case it isn't really alcohol's fault, but the person's irresponsibility.

But they seem to think all teens are equally irresponsible, and that all adults are equally responsible. Which isn't true.

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^that's why I revised it to just plain being alive, because they are only trying to target alcohol, but drugs can do the same thing to kids, and since you have to be alive for both of those truely obvious statements to actually be true, it just made more sense to me.

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THERE'S NOTHING I HATE MORE THAN LAZY PARENTS WHO ASK HOW TO PARENT,ACT LIKE THEY CAN'T PROTECT THEIR CHILD,AND THEN BLAME THE WORLD ON THE CHILDREN THEY RAISED!!!!!!

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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^ I hate a few things more, but that pisses me off as well. So, what does this have to do with alcoholism?

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(09-24-2012 09:59 AM)DoA Wrote:  ^ I hate a few things more, but that pisses me off as well. So, what does this have to do with alcoholism?
Simple,parents think only teenagers and their wives or husbands drink beer when it's definitely not the case.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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"Current teen drinkers are more than twice as likely to have had sexual intercourse within the past three months than teens who don't drink."

"Higher drinking levels increase the likelihood of sexual activity."

Teens who drink alcohol are more likely than nondrinkers to smoke marijuana, use inhalants, or carry a weapon."

"Young people are more susceptible to alcohol-induced impairment of their driving skills. Drinking drivers aged 16 to 20 are twice as likely to be involved in a fatal crash as drinking drivers who are 21 or older."

" If kids can vote and join the military at 18, why do they have to wait until they're 21 to drink legally?
A. It's the law. In addition, ages of "initiation" vary. You can work at 14, vote at 18 and drink at 21, but you can't run for Congress until you're 25. Researchers who have evaluated the data say the minimum legal drinking age delays the onset of alcohol use. As a result, it reduces drinking-related injuries among teens and the risk of alcohol abuse and dependence later in life."


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Quote:the minimum legal drinking age delays the onset of alcohol use
Laugh
Do people really believe this crap?

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Hell no they don't, but they hope that if they repeat it enough, someone else will, which unfortunately often works when they are a/the only major source of information on the subject.

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But this...this mindless, condescending disrespect toward people who have no legal voice with which to defend themselves, this reduction of parents' betrayal into a cheap crack about kids being computer-savvy...it's like watching a surgeon joke about life insurance while his patient bleeds to death on the operating table. The media's job is to protect society from oppression and they've drawn a clear line between the people worth protecting and the people that don't matter. How can they people sleep at night?

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The legal drinking age thing is ignored where I live. I see people from my school (I go to middle school) being served at bars. If they want to get anywhere, they have to realise to get anywhere their current ruels need to be followed. Although I have never had alclohol, nearly everybody at my school has. I think hiwever it is just as bad for adults as it is for kids and they need to completely ban it or let everybody have it. I would lean twords completely banning it, drunk people are no fun, I know from experience.
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Pff,which students actually cares about the drinking age except my school's.I really need to go back to D****r.

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(09-29-2012 12:27 PM)SomeRandomHuman Wrote:  The legal drinking age thing is ignored where I live. I see people from my school (I go to middle school) being served at bars. If they want to get anywhere, they have to realise to get anywhere their current ruels need to be followed. Although I have never had alclohol, nearly everybody at my school has. I think hiwever it is just as bad for adults as it is for kids and they need to completely ban it or let everybody have it. I would lean twords completely banning it, drunk people are no fun, I know from experience.

i don't know if another prohibition would work, but if it were to happen, i suggest we just make it available to anyone over the age of 72 (because 70 is too common)

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Change drinking age to 100 and the voting age to 16.Maybe they should have a test of your intelligence so they can tell of you should vote or not.

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(09-29-2012 10:35 PM)TheMentalLover Wrote:  Change drinking age to 100 and the voting age to 16.Maybe they should have a test of your intelligence so they can tell of you should vote or not.
I'd be more for changing the drinking age to either N/A, 18, or 72, and changing the voting age to 12.

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I'd ban all drugs that change your emotions or the way your brain works, and I'd have no voting age, but a test to see how smart you are on politics.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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(09-30-2012 05:59 AM)MentalAnarchist Wrote:  I'd ban all drugs that change your emotions or the way your brain works, and I'd have no voting age, but a test to see how smart you are on politics.
Well, aren't you an authoritarian? Banning things left and right and testing people on something sounds like something a power-hungry school official would do.

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It's really testing on how idiotic you are like there would be patriotic and political questions. Also some thrown in weird ones in there. You'd have to put a legit conversation in your head before you judge.
Also I hate the idea that people wouldn't except who they are and use drugs to change their own selves when they have so much potential without them.It makes me tear up thinking about it.

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Drugs get nobody nowhere. I know from living in the shitty part of detroit. There are so many people who do drugs, drug dealers freely sell thier goods and nobody bothers them. And they just get addicted and become douchebags without brains. And then they end up here. That is how the idiot (my mom) wound up here, and now I am stuck here. Dont do drugs!
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Since I have never done drugh, I have hope of moveing away to somewhere without drugs and idiots
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Maybe you can try Kansas,not Ar-Kansas though.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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(09-23-2012 01:44 PM)Jmusial Wrote:  http://www.dontserveteens.gov
Fucking. RAGED
I'm SICK of this bullshit.

You're sig is a perfect example of what I want to do.
10-30-2012 11:16 AM
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