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Plagiarism

I just got an essay back from my english teacher and she said I plagiaried it. She didn't say exacally were she thought I plagiaried it from. Heres the essay, if you guys think you know were she thinks I plagiaried it from please speak up.
Quote:The Hobbit by J.R.R. Tolkien is a tale of the adventure of a hobbit, a wizard and a band of dwarves. When the wizard Gandalf arrives at the doorstep of the hobbit Bilbo Baggins, Bilbo is thrust into an adventure that changes his outlook on life. The Hobbit is an extremely overrated book.
Near the beginning of the book we are introduced to the party of fourteen dwarves when they arrive at Bilbo’s house. While the number of dwarves adds to the atmosphere of the adventure, it becomes confusing when a single dwarf is being addressed. Often times the book could have said “one of the dwarves” instead of naming a particular one. The end result is many of the dwarves do not receive any character development. There’s a reason The Hobbit is the trope codifier for Our Dwarves Are All The Same.
About midway through the through the book, the group is forced to trek through Mirkwood forest. At this point the book gets very repetitive. While Tolkien did a good job getting the book to have a good feel for the dark and dreary atmosphere of Mirkwood this is exactly the problem as it is not very interesting to read about. While in Mirkwood the group is captured by the wood elves living in the woods. The book becomes a bit more interesting at this point as Bilbo has to free the dwarves from their cells. But the excitement even then is low as they face little trouble escaping.
Gandalf the wizard often shows up when the group is in trouble to aid them. If a character in the book had to be considered a Mary Sue, it would be Gandalf. Gandalf often seems to serve as a Deus ex machina showing up just to get the group out of the problem they are currently facing. Throughout the book you get the feeling that Gandalf is a Boring Invincible Hero. In the final battle of the book Gandalf does get a broken arm, it has no real importance in the story.
When the dwarves arrive at the dragon’s lair it awakes and flies off to town, were it is killed. This is one of the most disappointing parts of the book. The dwarves travel all the way there and don’t get to fight the dragon. The suspense that was building the entire book is instantly dispelled when it is discovered that the dragon is killed off in town. The final battle in the book, The Battle of Five armies, is very anticlimactic as Bilbo is knocked out early in the battle, so the reader never fully finds out what happens at the battle, only the small bits that Bilbo finds out later.
While at the time of the books release it portrayed a unique and interesting world, Tolkien also set many standards for fantasy novels. With other authors following in his footsteps, The hobbit now feels very generic fantasy novel. Due to the generic feeling The Hobbit can only be enjoyed by diehard fantasy fans.
10-22-2010 09:09 AM
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Re: Plagiarism

Ask her to prove that it's plagiarized. If it is actually plagiarized, this should be easy, because there should be another copy of it somewhere on the interwebs.

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She said I didn't plagiarize it word for word but stole the "idea." I wanted to call bullshit, but she still gave a grade for it and without I wouldn't have passed this quarter.
10-23-2010 06:45 AM
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How do you plagiarize an idea?

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That's what I want to know.
10-23-2010 07:14 AM
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ask your teacher to explain and elaberate on how you "plagerized." if she cant back up what she said then she should give you a better grade.

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10-23-2010 08:48 AM
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I'm not going to make a big deal about it now because the quarters grades have already been finalized so I couldn't get the grade changed even if I proved to her I didn't plagarize anything.

She said I need to change my writing style to avoid plagarism but I'm not changing my style to avoid plagarizing random "ideas" she found off the internet. If she claims I plagarized again then I'm going to do everything in my power to prove I didn't.
10-23-2010 02:04 PM
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You made a summary. OF COURSE your ideas will be similar to others who made a summary on the same book, because, well, you were doing THE SAME BOOK.

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And the thing is, that wasn't her main concern either. She was really going off on the fact that I used the term "Mary Sue", you know, the term that everyone on the internet uses all the time.
10-24-2010 03:14 PM
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