Is porn really that good?

[Miller0700]

Everytime I think about watching it or do, I can't help to feel sorry for whoever partakes in it. Yeah, I know the obvious reasons ("It's how we all got here", "they're actors/actresses", "it's an art form"), but still:

* Fucking numerous people, most of which aren't even attracted to one another? Seriously?

* The excessive and constant use of birth control and anti-STD medication needed for each act.

* The idea that people can stump this low for money or entertainment.

* How many families, relationships, jobs, and careers are ruined or strained through this enormous enterprise.

* Viewing men and women as nothing more than sex objects and treating them as such in real life and adding to (in some cases) the idea that one has to look absolutely attractive, fit, devoid of all emotions and intelligence to be like and then later fucked in our society.

* The idea of entertaining horny little boys and girls by fucking numerous people some of which are quite pathetic, disgusting and slutty is somehow "healthy."



But that's just me...



Should we limit or even ban it? You tell me. Hell, I could be wrong on my whole stance.



Moral fagged rant over...

[Sunbourn]

Quote:* Fucking numerous people, most of which aren't even attracted to one another? Seriously?

That's called shitty porn.

Quote:* The idea that people can stump this low for money or entertainment.

Is there a purely objective standard for low? If this is what the people involved love to do, then is it really low?

Quote:* Viewing men and women as nothing more than sex objects and treating them as such in real life and adding to (in some cases) the idea that one has to look absolutely attractive, fit, devoid of all emotions and intelligence to be like and then later fucked in our society.

Do we deny our sexual instincts then? Does all porn cater to one specific idea of attractiveness? In fact porn is very diverse in this respect. If you don't like something, you can skip through to the next video, and the next until you find somebody you personally find attractive. Perhaps that's part of the reason porn is so addictive. In the real world if somebody is unsuitable for us sexually we can't just scroll through to the next person. We have to wait. Whereas with porn we always find quick gratification.

Quote:* The idea of entertaining horny little boys and girls by fucking numerous people some of which are quite pathetic, disgusting and slutty is somehow "healthy."

Now now, the entire porn audience doesn't consist of little boys and girls. Sure, they're there as well, but the porn's existence in itself isn't to blame for them having access to it.

I simply advise against over-consumption of porn because of the effects it can have on a person's dating life. If somebody is watching porn regularly, they feel less motivated to go out and actually find a mate. Why bother, when they can mindlessly whack off at any instant thanks to the internet.

[Miller0700]

(09-08-2012 05:46 PM)|55555| Wrote:  That's called shitty porn.

Concede sort of. Some porn I've seen is purely intimate, but the majority is "bump bump move on to the next."

(09-08-2012 05:46 PM)|55555| Wrote:  Is there a purely objective standard for low?

I think we can agree that when one fucks over 10 people, a low is hit.

(09-08-2012 05:46 PM)|55555| Wrote:  If this is what the people involved love to do, then is it really low?

Ruining their self image, bodies and self-worth? I'd say yeah.

I know a lot of people who do terrible shit, with their only defense is that they "like it."

(09-08-2012 05:46 PM)|55555| Wrote:  Do we deny our sexual instincts then?

Fuck no, but there's more to our livelihood than to fuck anyone we see and move on to the next.

(09-08-2012 05:46 PM)|55555| Wrote:  Does all porn cater to one specific idea of attractiveness?

Generally, but Ill concede anyways.

(09-08-2012 05:46 PM)|55555| Wrote:  In the real world if somebody is unsuitable for us sexually we can't just scroll through to the next person. We have to wait. Whereas with porn we always find quick gratification.

My point how damaging it is to relationships and stuff. You're last point proved it.

(09-08-2012 05:46 PM)|55555| Wrote:  Now now, the entire porn audience doesn't consist of little boys and girls.

It was a joke; a generalization, but it's okay.

(09-08-2012 05:46 PM)|55555| Wrote:  Sure, they're there as well, but the porn's existence in itself isn't to blame for them having access to it.

But it's practically everywhere in our hyper sexed culture. One doesn't have to do much searching to stumble onto it.

[Sunbourn]

Quote:Concede sort of. Some porn I've seen is purely intimate, but the majority is "bump bump move on to the next."

If two people aren't attracted to eachother it's pretty obvious. However it's actually not something I find to very often. Maybe it's because of the sources I get my porn from. Sex does not have to be purely intimate. Two people can be very attracted to eachother, but not want any sort of closeness beyond the level of BUMP BUMP BUMP. But, for those who require that it be intimate, there's the intimate tag for you. There's porn for nearly everybody.

Quote:I think we can agree that when one fucks over 10 people, a low is hit.

We don't agree. If the person involved is okay with fucking over 10 people, and the other 10 people involved are fine with it, what's the problem? Of course, you don't have to actively participate in the viewing of porn. If you wouldn't date somebody who fucks over 10 people, nobody has the problem with it. The issue here, is that you're putting this standard on everybody. Some people get off on fucking a multitude of people. I see no issue with that, even though I probably wouldn't participate in a gang bang myself. What two+ consenting people do, short of scooping out eachother's flesh and eating it, can't be considered low by me.

Quote:Ruining their self image, bodies and self-worth? I'd say yeah.

Is their self image really ruined? Some girls want to be treated like the slut she knows she is.

How are their bodies ruined, other than losing this image of purity some people don't even want to have?

If their self worth is based on who and how many people they fuck, then they should probably do a major evaluation of what's important in their life. Bar STDs, there's bigger issues to worry about.

Quote:I know a lot of people who do terrible shit, with their only defense is that they "like it."

So long as nobody else is harmed in the process, is any other sort of justification necessary?

Quote:My point how damaging it is to relationships and stuff. You're last point proved it.

Some people just can't handle it. In my early teenage days I was one of them, but I learned that moderation is key. I can go weeks without it and feel no urge at all. Porn can be integrated as a healthy part of one's sexual lifestyle, just like many other potentially unhealthy things can be integrated in moderation.

It is sad that porn is part of the reason some relationships are torn apart, but porn isn't always to blame. Sometimes one person in the relationship will become sexually frustrated and at that point an outlet for this sexual frustration becomes necessary. Instead of cheating, this person instead has porn as an option if it's wanted. There are benefits and there are drawbacks. It isn't so black and white.

Quote:But it's practically everywhere in our hyper sexed culture. One doesn't have to do much searching to stumble onto it.

It sure is, but you won't find hardcore porn on TV. Usually, you'll have to actually seek it out yourself.

[zagix]

You know what? Porn and jerking is better than a real "relationship". No dinners to buy, no bullshit to spew, no time wasted,mno bitches you want to slap but have to act nice towards. Just pure sexual release.

[Night]

Lol, I used to like porn. After being with my fiance, porn just stopped doing it for me.

[James Comey]

I find that masturbating to porn kills all my energy and makes me feel depressed.

[Gwedin]

(04-13-2017 05:01 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  I find that masturbating to porn kills all my energy and makes me feel depressed.

i agree. i haven't masturbated to porn in quite some time and it's quite good.

masturbating to one's thoughts or w/e isn't that satisfying usually but it doesn't leave me hating myself. it drains my energy less too but maybe that's just cuz i have more energy these days anyway

[Avatar Korra]

I have never felt drained or depressed masturbating to porn. I just do it, enjoy it, then go to sleep if it's night. If it is the morning, I end up in a calm, meditative state for a while, then I start feeling energized.

Maybe it's because I'm a girl, though that wouldn't make much sense.
Meh.

[Username]

Everything in moderation... even heroin.

[James Comey]

(04-14-2017 12:00 AM)Korravatar Wrote:  I have never felt drained or depressed masturbating to porn. I just do it, enjoy it, then go to sleep if it's night. If it is the morning, I end up in a calm, meditative state for a while, then I start feeling energized.

Maybe it's because I'm a girl, though that wouldn't make much sense.
Meh.

Eh, I kinda realize I was using porn back then to drain out other problems in my life.

The porn itself wasn't bad but the way I was handling the situation wasn't good in itself. I'm not going to blame everything else other than myself for why my life was shitty back then.

In the end it's a preference.

[Rule_BreakerXVIII]

There is porn, and there is erotica. Most good erotica I've found is in the text format - not videos, images, etc.

Like any media, there is good stuff, and there is talk-bump-hump-go stuff; the good ones usually take time to find.

[James Comey]

I don't think most people think too much of quality when they're trying to jerk it off on a night off.

[brainiac3397]

Though quality helps speed up the process. You can enjoy a decent B movie but them cinematics on an A movie will still come off better.

[James Comey]

I used to be one of those people who would have long fapping sessions.

[James Comey]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-wei...68932.html

[brainiac3397]

As an educated porn consumer, I should note that I also can work off either comic forms or even written forms of the genre. Sometimes finding a good video takes long and isn't worth the time.

Speaking of which, porn should generally not be a long session and if you suffer from it, following the advice in Hansgrohe's sig might be helpful.

However, some good written or comic forms can have actual plots worth reading(which IMO makes them more like erotica) even after the deed is done. Which I'd argue makes them better in general than video, even if video is the fastest(video is basically the fast food, comics are the local pizzaeria, and written is gourmet).

[James Comey]

Heh, I've actually read good erotica before. It was a Kenny-Wendy South Park fanfiction, of all things, so yes, I agree.

[brainiac3397]

Fun fact: Organized crime before the age of internet flourished on porn. They loved that shit because of how easily it brought money in while the risks associated were minimal.

With the internet, most of the porn tends to benefit site owners thanks to ads and subscribers. There's a lot of people who host porn sites on private servers as side jobs simply because of how easily it brings in money. These guys don't even need to create the porn, they just re-invest their cash into the porn producers and bang, double profit(first from the porn itself then the secondary flow from the traffic on their side sites).

If you know about web development, have the money, and aren't morally disturbed by porn, it's a big hit if you can pull it off.

[James Comey]

Actually Brain, a part of California's economy is from porn. Much of the films are filmed down in LA (the San Fernando Valley is notorious for this) while a lot of the sites are hosted in the SF Bay Area.

Shit, by watching porn, I'm literally making the state money.

[brainiac3397]

I think CA is one of the places with big-buck legit porn studios. A mix of the traditional "Hollywood" status and substantially liberal views that make it possible.

[James Comey]

Not to mention all the people here very familiar with computing and you've got yourself a porn mecca lol.

What's funny is that we had a Prop on that last year, Prop 60, which would've required porn actors to wear condoms statewide. Voters rejected it because if it went through, much of it would've been moved to Las Vegas instead.

[brainiac3397]

I wonder where most of the porn "farms" are. I know theres a company up in Quebec that's responsible for some major sites(I dont believe they handle any of the production but they do set up and run the sites that producers they invest in populate with videos).

The two owners started it in their 20s or something and now make a hefty living just running those sites on their servers.

[James Comey]

I remember reading about some dude in Russia who ran a massive porn farm but gave it up because it nearly mentally destroyed him (not to mention the severe erectile dysfunction as well as bad relationships).

Maybe it's not as great as it seems.

[brainiac3397]

I mean, you dont have the consume the porn. I found out that some middle age white dude in texas supposedly runs a network of sites about gangs as well as some porn. He also runs his own web development business.

Like they say, dont get high on your own supply.

[James Comey]

Like that said Russian guy who literally did that.

Usually those that get high on their supply fall quick, and fast. Makes you wonder.

[James Comey]

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170508...g-less-sex

Looks like porn is making us have less sex

[Avatar Korra]

I like just looking up specific things like,
Lesbian sensual massage
Asian girl masturbation
Guy getting hard in pants
Cum in pants
Dry hump orgasm
Wetting desperation
And then adding porn at the end to narrow the search.

I love these sites equally:
Xtube
Xvideos
Kisshentai
Pornhub

I don't really like the porn where everyone is naked and genitals are being inserted into each other immediately. It's way hotter when it's slow and sensual and you can see how aroused they are.

[Depression101]

I, personally, don't watch too much porn. Just not a big fan of it, I always feel guilty afterwards, even though I don't have a problem with porn, masturbation and/or sex. And even despite that, it never really appealed to me. I have no problem with sex, but I hate romantic relationships. Maybe it's the artist in me, but I don't want to ever fall in love. It means having someone to bother you with their problems, you always have extra worrying to do for someone else, they get in your way, and they can hurt you, and a hundred other reasons. Slavery and dependence doesn't appeal to me.

[Depression101]

God quality porn is something you either have to buy or pirate. And I don't think phones can actually get viruses, or, at least, I think it's hard as fuck to get an IOS or Android infected.