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Nothing's Happening - Rant
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Nothing's Happening - Rant

You're going to need to bathe in aloe after this, because it's raining fire! Ranting

For six months I have explained to everything that moves that the public school system is only really good for indoctrination and imprisonment. I've started a blog, joined these forums, collaborated with people across the vast reaches of the Internet, started a small club at school, and called for reinvention as best I could.

When I discovered this site, I realized that many other people were doing the same thing since '99.

SO WHY HASN'T ANYTHING CHANGED YET?

Better yet, why is the system getting even more oppressive than less? Is everyone deaf to reason? Does no one care about the injustice that surrounds them? Are we all completely powerless?

It's like the youth protests in China back before I was born. Did they change anything? No! The rest of the world could hear them, but apparently news doesn't spread well under communist regimes or something. It's like people actually think political socialism is a good thing. Goingcrazy

Or maybe it's because of stupid people in general. They fill the school buildings and (I used to think) somehow got out despite being incompetent. I now realize that it is the very reason they got out.

And despite everything I've been saying, despite my bitter hatred of age discrimination, despite my insistence that teenagers aren't idiots, I've come up with the sinking feeling that I'm part of a generation that was born after just about everything good, and that has nothing new to bring to the table.

It seems everything is making me angry - I came to these forums to talk about the complete reformation, destruction, and reinvention of the public school system, but it seems we're all either trolling, reliving the past, or having things to say completely unrelated to the struggle at all. Noo

If I should give up on my desire to liberate children and adolescents, just say so. Mad

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RE: Nothing's Happening - Rant

Now that you've got that out, know that activism does matter. The common idea on here as been that it's useless, but check this out:



Watch on YouTube

We DO matter. We ARE changing things. Just very slowly, and very surely. Keep at it.

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Edfreedom.org -- An organization for more freedom in education.
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Don't worry, something will happen. I assure you.
08-28-2012 08:25 PM
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Where are you looking for signs of change? The media? They're not gonna report about stuff like that. At least not yet.

Some people are making small changes here and there. NYRA has actually made some people get rid of curfews and teenager-repellent sound blasting things in a few places. And they get on interviews every now and then. I know it's not school-related, but it still helps. Every little bit helps... just don't give up.

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RE: Nothing's Happening - Rant

MFW you actually thought SS would actually do something.
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(08-29-2012 05:26 AM)gore goroth Wrote:  MFW you actually thought SS would actually do something.
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And just when I was feeling empowered by the other replies Noo

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RE: Nothing's Happening - Rant

Well, some of the members are trying to change things. Some.

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Things happen slowly. Never lose faith, buddy.
08-29-2012 08:30 AM
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(08-29-2012 07:25 AM)Doa Wrote:  And just when I was feeling empowered by the other replies Noo
This is why he's on my ignore list.

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RE: Nothing's Happening - Rant

It is very difficult to weaken a system that has been so deeply nested into the public conscious as essential and beneficial. To wake people up to its true agenda would be a huge turnover, which cannot happen quickly.
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More or less what he said. ^^^

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RE: Nothing's Happening - Rant

Don't give up, that way you're saying that you surrender and that they have won. These things take a large amount of time due to most people believing school is essential and not caring or ignoring when you bring up injustices.

You see, for people to actually care about the problem they need to see it as a story. A stereotypical story, with a heroic good guy and a cleary defined bad guy. This is how governments get soldiers to send to the slaughter, by demonizing the enemy and displaying it as a black and white struggle.

However, schools have managed to change themselves into the good guy, and people who wish to change the school system into the bad guy. So, to get people to care and actually motivate more people to do something, we need to change us into the good guy and school into the bad guy (which it actually is). And that's the hardest part.

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I'm not going to quit. Sorry, I've just run into a few new obstacles recently and I feel like the entire thing is hopeless. I forgot for a second that obstacles used in the right manner are tools instead.

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