Current time: 03-29-2023, 08:40 AMHello There, Guest! (Login — Register)
RIP School Survival Forums
August 2001 - June 2017
The School Survival Forums are permanently retired. If you need help with quitting school, unsupportive parents or anything else, there is a list of resources on the Help Page.
If you want to write about your experiences in school, you can write on our blog.
To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
The forums are mostly read-only and are in a maintenance/testing phase, before being permanently archived. Please use this time to get the contact details of people you'd like to keep in touch with. My contact details are here.
Please do not make a mirror copy of the forums in their current state - things will still change, and some people have requested to be able to edit or delete some of their personal info.
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
-Immortal Technique, The Martyr, The Martyr
09-03-2012 12:31 PM
Thanks given by:
SoulRiser
Site Founder
Posts: 18,240
Joined: Aug 2001
I think what Doa was trying to say is that if gravity went away, it would have a lot more consequences than just humans being able to fly...
Also, you know how hard it is to change a belief when all the evidence points against it? Good luck actually seriously genuinely convincing yourself there is no gravity... I doubt anyone could do it (unless they were on drugs perhaps, or insane, or flying so fast there actually was no gravity).
EDIT: It'd be far more likely for people to be convinced of stuff that's of a more personal nature to them, like, that they can become a millionaire... because that's something they have more direct control over. They don't have the ability to make gravity stop working, so it'd be really difficult for anyone to convince themselves they can do that. But making money is something they can actually control, so odds are if they believe they will become a millionaire, they probably will, because it seems more realistic that they can actually do something about that.
Support School Survival on Patreon or Donate Bitcoin Here: 1Q5WCcxWjayniaL92b8GfXBiGdfjmnUNa2 "Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it." - André Paul Guillaume Gide "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." - Albert Einstein "I'm pretty sure there's a lot of beauty that can only be found in the mind of a lunatic." - TheCancer EIPD - Emotionally Incompetent Parent Disorder
(09-03-2012 07:35 AM)Doa Wrote: That's ridiculous. As soon as I stop believing in gravity, we lose our anchor to the planet and drift into space almost immediately.
No, what you just said is ridiculous. Gravity doesn't go away even if you choose not to believe in it.
Sure it does. But I'm sure as heck not going to demonstrate.
Public Service Announcement: First world problems are still problems.
I wonder if life is like the matrix, because I forget dreams and I forget lots of things in life, even the ones I need to remember, like where stuff is. I hope it is, because the matrix is FRICKIN sweet! (i do justly apologise for my bad English, but anything less would have been inadequate)
(09-14-2012 07:23 AM)guts12 Wrote: Bullet time would be useless, as they would probably just shoot your feet, and then your head. They can't miss unless you magic jump or something
How about this:
We experience subjective reality (consciousness) but live in objective reality (the physical universe, planet Earth.) The brain and extended nervous system mediate the two, including circuits for perception, cognition, memory, language, and self-awareness.
As for the video game elements in real life, consider them metaphorically. There are ways to overlay gaming and literary concepts on real life, and even evolve your mind and brain in the process. Jane McGonigal used a kind of participatory game concept to recover from a brain injury that made her nearly unable to think.
As René Descartes puts it, even if we did live in a virtual world, the fact that there *is* a person being deceived (you) means that there is a reality, and you exist.
"I think, therefore I am."
Cognito, ergo sum.
Hidden stuff:
TRIGGER WARNING: THIS TRIGGER WARNING CONTAINS TRIGGER WARNINGS!
Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
It's just a set of arbitrary and useless constructions. If we were all beings in a computer programs or anything else it wouldn't matter, because there's no evidence for it. Every time you want to add an extra construction to your perception of the universe, you have to have evidence that that construction was there.
Example:
I could say that there's a xerox printer on the surface of pluto. That is obviously not true but you can't prove it wrong. It is still not likely true, so you'd ignore it.
(09-21-2012 05:14 AM)zagix Wrote: It's just a set of arbitrary and useless constructions. If we were all beings in a computer programs or anything else it wouldn't matter, because there's no evidence for it. Every time you want to add an extra construction to your perception of the universe, you have to have evidence that that construction was there.
Example:
I could say that there's a xerox printer on the surface of pluto. That is obviously not true but you can't prove it wrong. It is still not likely true, so you'd ignore it.
Who cares of there no evidence? Is there evidence of the Higgs Boson? NO! Is there evidence of the graviton? NO! You don't need evidence to think about something. Besides, you could do bullet time. BULLET TIME! Why are you trying to ruin this?
BULLET TIME!
09-22-2012 06:33 AM
Thanks given by:
SoulRiser
Site Founder
Posts: 18,240
Joined: Aug 2001
Support School Survival on Patreon or Donate Bitcoin Here: 1Q5WCcxWjayniaL92b8GfXBiGdfjmnUNa2 "Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it." - André Paul Guillaume Gide "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." - Albert Einstein "I'm pretty sure there's a lot of beauty that can only be found in the mind of a lunatic." - TheCancer EIPD - Emotionally Incompetent Parent Disorder
:goingcrazy:People believe that they can fly,but I can't believe in the economy.I believe in pigs flying though because at least they're smarter than humans now.
Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#!
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
-Albert Einstein
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
-Benjamin Franklin
replying back tomorrow.
Yet for the record.. If someone was dismissed from school cause they learnt everything they were supposed to know, then afterwards they were told to never think about it again, all that of everything.. would that prove them (being the one's to forget) to be an invalid or void of point, or can I explain something, or what do you know?
Its all subjective senseless in your reality, true isn't it?
Food for thought.
Truth sets you free, yet Love keeps you good.
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2015 06:38 PM by Ketchup.)