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What are your thoughts on subjective reality?
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RE: What are your thoughts on subjective reality?

UR JUST NOT BLEIVIN HARD ENUF!!!


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What are your thoughts on subjective reality?

I think what Doa was trying to say is that if gravity went away, it would have a lot more consequences than just humans being able to fly...

Also, you know how hard it is to change a belief when all the evidence points against it? Good luck actually seriously genuinely convincing yourself there is no gravity... I doubt anyone could do it (unless they were on drugs perhaps, or insane, or flying so fast there actually was no gravity).

EDIT: It'd be far more likely for people to be convinced of stuff that's of a more personal nature to them, like, that they can become a millionaire... because that's something they have more direct control over. They don't have the ability to make gravity stop working, so it'd be really difficult for anyone to convince themselves they can do that. But making money is something they can actually control, so odds are if they believe they will become a millionaire, they probably will, because it seems more realistic that they can actually do something about that.

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(09-03-2012 10:55 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(09-03-2012 07:35 AM)Doa Wrote:  That's ridiculous. As soon as I stop believing in gravity, we lose our anchor to the planet and drift into space almost immediately.

No, what you just said is ridiculous. Gravity doesn't go away even if you choose not to believe in it.
Sure it does. But I'm sure as heck not going to demonstrate.

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I wonder if life is like the matrix, because I forget dreams and I forget lots of things in life, even the ones I need to remember, like where stuff is. I hope it is, because the matrix is FRICKIN sweet! (i do justly apologise for my bad English, but anything less would have been inadequate)
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Life is a matrix, set up by those of higher positions.

Their engineered society is indeed a magnum opus like no other.
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But It would be FRICKIN sweet if life were the matrix. For real. With the cool Neo hacking stuff. I'd super run to the shops!
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And the bullet-time.


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What are your thoughts on subjective reality?

Replying to the title: I don't know - if I had any thoughts on what it was, I would probably completely change it considering it's subjective.

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Bullet time would be useless, as they would probably just shoot your feet, and then your head. They can't miss unless you magic jump or something
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(09-14-2012 07:23 AM)guts12 Wrote:  Bullet time would be useless, as they would probably just shoot your feet, and then your head. They can't miss unless you magic jump or something

Exactly.

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Yay! I was right about something. Bullet time would be useful for limbo contests
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What are your thoughts on subjective reality?

How about this:
We experience subjective reality (consciousness) but live in objective reality (the physical universe, planet Earth.) The brain and extended nervous system mediate the two, including circuits for perception, cognition, memory, language, and self-awareness.

The classical version of the concept of subjective reality is Plato's allegory of the cave. Read about it on tvtropes:
tvtropes: Platonic Cave
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlatonicCave

tvtropes: The Truman Show
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fi...TrumanShow

Here's a real-life example...
TED: Deb Roy: The birth of a word [19 min]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE4ce4mexrU

As for knowledge of the mind, consciousness, and the brain, consider Dan Siegel's discussion of his concept of "mindsight":


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As for the video game elements in real life, consider them metaphorically. There are ways to overlay gaming and literary concepts on real life, and even evolve your mind and brain in the process. Jane McGonigal used a kind of participatory game concept to recover from a brain injury that made her nearly unable to think.

Jane McGonigal's SuperBetter game
https://www.superbetter.com/ -- see the "how it works" diagram

Jane McGonigal's Find the Future game
http://game.nypl.org/#/
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RE: What are your thoughts on subjective reality?

As René Descartes puts it, even if we did live in a virtual world, the fact that there *is* a person being deceived (you) means that there is a reality, and you exist.

"I think, therefore I am."

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What are your thoughts on subjective reality?

It's just a set of arbitrary and useless constructions. If we were all beings in a computer programs or anything else it wouldn't matter, because there's no evidence for it. Every time you want to add an extra construction to your perception of the universe, you have to have evidence that that construction was there.

Example:
I could say that there's a xerox printer on the surface of pluto. That is obviously not true but you can't prove it wrong. It is still not likely true, so you'd ignore it.
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(09-21-2012 05:14 AM)zagix Wrote:  It's just a set of arbitrary and useless constructions. If we were all beings in a computer programs or anything else it wouldn't matter, because there's no evidence for it. Every time you want to add an extra construction to your perception of the universe, you have to have evidence that that construction was there.

Example:
I could say that there's a xerox printer on the surface of pluto. That is obviously not true but you can't prove it wrong. It is still not likely true, so you'd ignore it.

Who cares of there no evidence? Is there evidence of the Higgs Boson? NO! Is there evidence of the graviton? NO! You don't need evidence to think about something. Besides, you could do bullet time. BULLET TIME! Why are you trying to ruin this?





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(09-03-2012 12:31 PM)IamNoone Wrote:  UR JUST NOT BLEIVIN HARD ENUF!!!


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:goingcrazy:People believe that they can fly,but I can't believe in the economy.I believe in pigs flying though because at least they're smarter than humans now.Goingcrazy

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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BULLET TIME!

And I am believing hard enough
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Saunters on in.. huh selective pervasion, reply back tmr.

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Have fun talking to the dead seeing how old this thread is...

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I have a way of bringing things back to life.. dOo I reply back yet?

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Jawdrop replying back tomorrow.

Yet for the record.. If someone was dismissed from school cause they learnt everything they were supposed to know, then afterwards they were told to never think about it again, all that of everything.. would that prove them (being the one's to forget) to be an invalid or void of point, or can I explain something, or what do you know?

Its all subjective senseless in your reality, true isn't it? Happyno

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