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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

-SoulRiser

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Miller0700 Offline
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Dropping Out?

While a site like Uncollege (http://www.uncollege.org/) promises freedom to truly learn at your own pace and liberation from college debt and mostly worthless degrees by dropping out or not attending college at all, some members on this site like Aya and Saint advocate that people (or a significant amount) try for college as they themselves have left with no serious problems from it and look to further their careers with college as one of many stepping stones needed to have a successful (or semi-successful) life.


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06-03-2012 12:41 PM
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RE: Dropping Out?

I dropped out of high school the minute I turned 18 (couple months ago). I don't plan on going to college or back to high school or anything.
06-03-2012 12:42 PM
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A whole site devoted to being anti-college or two SS members...hmm.

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06-03-2012 01:40 PM
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RE: Dropping Out?

Well it's way easier to succeed in getting a decent job by going to University.

(01-10-2012 02:15 PM)Maelstrom Wrote:  Efs, your nihilism is beautiful.
06-03-2012 05:09 PM
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Explain.

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06-04-2012 01:29 AM
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RE: Dropping Out?

OK, so everyone and thier mother knows by now that I work for an IT staffing firm. I do mainly recruting, marketing, & basic help desk duties (shit your hate fagix).

The one thing I've learned in the two years I've been actively recruiting is that a college degree is only part of what determines your success in the job market. Seriously out of the 50+ candidates on billing right now, only half of them have 4 year degrees and only a few have Masters degrees. We even had one guy a few years ago making $45/hr with a GED and a few industry certifications. There are really four criteria an employer looks for in a job candidate. They are:

Education
Skill
Experience
Personality

If you have at least three of these four, you'll be able to find a job. And this is where most of the Humanities majors fall flat on thier face after graduation. They have plenty of education, and they probably all have good personalities, but they have no skill or experience in anything relavant to economic situation they find themselves in. They end up like that girl highlighted in my shitty degrees = shitty jobs thread, putting in hundreds of applications for jobs but recieving no offers. That's why I always reccomend that if you're going to earn as Humanities degree, that you at least have the forsight to minor in something useful, like finance, economics or IT.

There's just one exception to this rule: Matter what combination of the above qualities you have, at least one of them must be personality. I can't stress this enough. Personality is just as important as education. You're college degree doesn't mean dick if you can't communicate and relate to people. We just had a problem with this last week. One of our engineers fucked up royally at an interview with the client. Now he's pissed because he didn't get the job. Well perhaps you should've saved the rude jokes for after you got the job, hm?

So yeah, tl;dr: A college degree is just a compliment to your other qualities as an employee. If you have it, great. If not, don't worry. People can, and do make it without a degree.
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