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Into the Wild

Just finished watching it... What a powerful movie. Gonna go to the library tomorrow and see if they have the book.
For those of you that haven't seen this I highly recommend it. I can honestly say that this is one of my favorite movies. It's pretty long, and quite sad. I haven't cried over a movie in ages but this one really touched a nerve. I wont give anything away though. You have to experience it for yourself.

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We watched in our English class last year. I personally loved the movie and the book, but almost of my class hated him because he was a reckless, hypocritical kid who didn't know what or where he was doing.

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I don't think he was hypocritical. Having no direction doesn't make you a liar, he was open with everyone he met and obviously had a profound impact on their lives because of it.
He doesn't like where life is leading him but he has no idea what to do once he leaves it. I guess I can relate on some level which is why I found it so powerful.
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the book tells you died right in the first page, gg
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lol I pretty much knew he died from the beginning of the movie. Didn't keep me from holding out hope.
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(05-23-2012 12:13 PM)Thought Criminal Wrote:  I don't think he was hypocritical. Having no direction doesn't make you a liar, he was open with everyone he met and obviously had a profound impact on their lives because of it.

They label him a hypocrite for that scene where he burns his money and then goes to work at that fast food restaurant (forgot which one) for money.

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I cri evry tiem. ;_;

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(05-23-2012 12:44 PM)Derchin Wrote:  
(05-23-2012 12:13 PM)Thought Criminal Wrote:  I don't think he was hypocritical. Having no direction doesn't make you a liar, he was open with everyone he met and obviously had a profound impact on their lives because of it.

They label him a hypocrite for that scene where he burns his money and then goes to work at that fast food restaurant (forgot which one) for money.

He worked at Burger King and That corn farm.
I don't see how that makes him a hypocrite though. Just decided he needed some money, Reasonable decision.
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Don't you find it ironic when an institutionalized preacher of society like school shows a film based on the inspirational life story of someone with anarcho-primitivist qualities?

Anyway, I've read the book, and it has to be in my top ten of all time. Really gave me some inspiration towards living a simpler life.

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A pretty cool quote I found:

"So many people live within unhappy circumstances, and yet, will not take the initiative to change their situation because of security, conformity, and conservatism. All may appear to give one piece of mind, but in reality, nothing is more damaging to the adventurous spirit within a man than a secure future. The very basic core of a man's living spirit is the passion for adventure. The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy in life than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun."- Chris McCandless

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(05-23-2012 01:00 PM)Thought Criminal Wrote:  I don't see how that makes him a hypocrite though. Just decided he needed some money, Reasonable decision.

Burning your money in declarence that it's "virtually worthless" then working at a fast food place for money does seem hypocritical.

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boo hoo

Who cares if what some guy did was hypocritical against money, an inanimate object. It's not like he burned someone else's money.
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(05-24-2012 01:16 AM)fish20 Wrote:  boo hoo

Who cares if what some guy did was hypocritical against money, an inanimate object. It's not like he burned someone else's money.

A hero's story is less inspiring if he/she succumbs to hypocrisy.

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(05-24-2012 01:57 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 01:16 AM)fish20 Wrote:  boo hoo

Who cares if what some guy did was hypocritical against money, an inanimate object. It's not like he burned someone else's money.

A hero's story is less inspiring if he/she succumbs to hypocrisy.

No its more realistic.
Heroes aren't the pinnacle of virtue or perfection that hollywood or the media makes them out to be. Heroes are humans and they are expected to make humans mistakes like we all do but they grow up and go because of it. I like being able to touch my heroes without them crumbling thank you.

Not that I've read this book, seen the movie or think this guy is a hero.

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(05-24-2012 01:57 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 01:16 AM)fish20 Wrote:  boo hoo

Who cares if what some guy did was hypocritical against money, an inanimate object. It's not like he burned someone else's money.

A hero's story is less inspiring if he/she succumbs to hypocrisy.

boo hoo
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boo hoo

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(05-24-2012 02:03 AM)HeartofShadows Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 01:57 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 01:16 AM)fish20 Wrote:  boo hoo

Who cares if what some guy did was hypocritical against money, an inanimate object. It's not like he burned someone else's money.


A hero's story is less inspiring if he/she succumbs to hypocrisy.

No its more realistic.
Heroes aren't the pinnacle of virtue or perfection that hollywood or the media makes them out to be. Heroes are humans and they are expected to make humans mistakes like we all do but they grow up and go because of it. I like being able to touch my heroes without them crumbling thank you.

Not that I've read this book, seen the movie or think this guy is a hero.



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(05-24-2012 02:03 AM)HeartofShadows Wrote:  No its more realistic.
Heroes aren't the pinnacle of virtue or perfection that hollywood or the media makes them out to be. Heroes are humans and they are expected to make humans mistakes like we all do but they grow up and go because of it. I like being able to touch my heroes without them crumbling thank you.

Not that I've read this book, seen the movie or think this guy is a hero.


I understand that heroes makes mistakes, my point was that they aren't worthy of being looked up to if they go right behind everyone's back and does the things they are supposedly trying to fighting against. Whether that's smoking, gun control, drugs, whatever. And in this special case, burning money; Declaring that it's "worthless" and then later working to earn it.

They're superficial.

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Point taken derchin..

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(05-24-2012 05:11 AM)HeartofShadows Wrote:  Point taken derchin..

Clarifying my position means agreeing with yours?

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(05-24-2012 05:16 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 05:11 AM)HeartofShadows Wrote:  Point taken derchin..

Clarifying my position means agreeing with yours?

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How does him saying point taken imply he thinks you think like him?

Anyway, dis nigga shouldn't have gone into the wild without a map. Other than that, A+ movie. Also, the only muthah fuckahs who think money is worthless are those who have never actually fucking needed it to survive. Everyone seems to apply some "evil" connotation to money because some people use it for "evil". It's an inanimate object. It cannot be "good" or "bad", it just is what it is. The people who think it's "ebil" are focusing on it like it's some sort of symbol for power and greed. Stop focusing on it as a symbol, and focus on it for what it is, the representation of buying power.

That's why his original position was wrong, and that's why he changed his mind. I think he decided it wasn't worth-less, just that an excess of it and working for it even though you don't like your job is stupid. Changing ones mind doesn't make them a hypocrite. Especially if they don't continue to believe the shit they used to believe.

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It means understandable derchin.
I've taken what you said and thought about it.

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