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Attention those who thinks themselves as rebel with a cause
As some of us thought that rebelling against the government thinking of doing something in order to change the country is a rebel at the start, but the idea of rebels in the world are people who tends to destruct making their reputations worse while the society perceive them as low are the real rebels in this country. Those who tries to change the countries using intelligence, rational, legal, and the safest technique are liberators which is an group of people are above the rebels and the society´s status once he/she have enough attention and respect from other people. Rebels tends to cause destruction, dangerous acts, and they haven´t change the society one bit while their timing of attacking on other people are one of the worse timing yet when it comes to changing the country. Striking should be the last resort if the people wouldn´t wanna understand our perspective and people are oppressing us even worse when we try to speak out our mind in an rational and intelligence matter for an long time. Liberators tries to speak out their messages with logical reasoning skills that may influence the society´s thoughts about other people and one example of who I would consider an liberator would be John Taylor Gatto.
Re: Attention those who thinks themselves as rebel with a cause
Yes, I think "rebel" is the wrong word to use. I don't think any of us really do many bad things. lso, rebelling isn't going to make anyone see our cause more.
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Re: Attention those who thinks themselves as rebel with a cause
Rebelling (as I see it) is actively and Violently protesting the bullshit that government does. Seriously things are blown way out of proportion, oh this teen isn't following my carefully outlined bullshit rules, REBEL.
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Re: Attention those who thinks themselves as rebel with a cause
If you play by their rules, you've already lost.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
Re: Attention those who thinks themselves as rebel with a cause
Memento Mori Wrote:Rebelling is:
"break with established customs "
Which is what liberators do, right?
Rebelling doesn't have to be violent.
I didn´t understand the break with established customs part, please define that further and I´ll take a guess that it means is breaking away from the common customs and going to be an individual who want to do something. If that is the case, then liberators are just a whole new level of rebel though they don´t consider themselves one.
CrayolaColours Wrote:The thing is, you can't go calling yourself a rebel. You know? If you do, you're screwed. No one will take you seriously.
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StylizedCarfan1 Wrote:As some of us thought that rebelling against the government thinking of doing something in order to change the country is a rebel at the start, but the idea of rebels in the world are people who tends to destruct making their reputations worse while the society perceive them as low are the real rebels in this country. Those who tries to change the countries using intelligence, rational, legal, and the safest technique are liberators which is an group of people are above the rebels and the society´s status once he/she have enough attention and respect from other people. Rebels tends to cause destruction, dangerous acts, and they haven´t change the society one bit while their timing of attacking on other people are one of the worse timing yet when it comes to changing the country. Striking should be the last resort if the people wouldn´t wanna understand our perspective and people are oppressing us even worse when we try to speak out our mind in an rational and intelligence matter for an long time. Liberators tries to speak out their messages with logical reasoning skills that may influence the society´s thoughts about other people and one example of who I would consider an liberator would be John Taylor Gatto.
oh yeah, you're completly right...we need to just sit back and let the politicians do everything, because the common person cant do anything
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Re: Attention those who thinks themselves as rebel with a cause
That may be right to a point, but it also seems very much like saying North Koreans shouldn't rise up and do something about their oppression because all it'll do is show their authorities that they need to be controlled.
This is the lie that keeps people too scared to do anything.
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Lunatic Wrote:
psychopath Wrote:This is the lie that keeps people too scared to do anything.
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Re: Attention those who thinks themselves as rebel with a cause
Loxor Wrote:Violently
So you don't see Gandhi as a rebel? I think our victory would be much greater if it was achieved through civil disobedience, sit-ins and other means of non-violent resistance to terror.
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RE: Attention those who thinks themselves as rebel with a cause
(10-19-2009 05:10 PM)~Mystery~ Wrote:
Lunatic Wrote:
psychopath Wrote:This is the lie that keeps people too scared to do anything.
their pee should hv been shot out like a ki blast breaking the rocks
oh and also No one has any rights. We're free, rights create invisible restrictions. But we live in a society where the majority accepts rights to be true.
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