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Teacher Finally Admits Math isn't necessary
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In degrees and in math, it just depends on what you have and what you do with it.

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I've seen so much shit done to youth and for some reason, this has made me angrier than I've felt in years. Abuse and oppression happens all over the world. It's a terrible reality of modern society, but we've all accepted that it happens and we're doing what we can to fight it and build a better world.
But this...this mindless, condescending disrespect toward people who have no legal voice with which to defend themselves, this reduction of parents' betrayal into a cheap crack about kids being computer-savvy...it's like watching a surgeon joke about life insurance while his patient bleeds to death on the operating table. The media's job is to protect society from oppression and they've drawn a clear line between the people worth protecting and the people that don't matter. How can they people sleep at night?

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(06-01-2012 03:38 AM)HeartofShadows Wrote:  
(05-31-2012 10:32 PM)AWOL Wrote:  "Maths helps science and engineering, you know those things that are essentially the only two large driving forces of change between now and a hundred years ago?"
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Lol Elitism is one hell of a drug.

>understands math
>encourages kids to study Science Technology Engineering & Math
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I wasn't talking about you.

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(05-28-2012 01:37 AM)HeartofShadows Wrote:  
(05-28-2012 12:06 AM)Aya Wrote:  
(03-11-2012 11:34 AM)Derchin Wrote:  Simple math is a necessity everyone needs to know. Higher level math (like calculus, trigonometry, elementary functions, ETC) is pretty much required in fields of engineering, science and business, but if you aren't going into any of these fields, planning on achieving anything in life. then higher level math is pointless for you. Your teacher is right.
Elitist add on.
Double fixed.
Kind of sad Aya that your obsessed with achieving.
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(06-01-2012 07:34 AM)Aya Wrote:  Double fixed.
Kind of sad Aya that your obsessed with achieving.

Yeah pretty much fixed.

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No one really needs shit like algebra. I mean, counting is useful, but really the complex abstract more advanced forms are all about science and economics. Not survival.

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There some forms of math that everyone needs to know and algebra is one of them.

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(06-01-2012 07:59 AM)Derchin Wrote:  There some forms of math that everyone needs to know and algebra is one of them.

An example of why would be nice

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As I said, counting is useful. But the more complex forms of math is all about economics and science.

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I wish no harm on anyone, but those whose harmful ways will not stop without the same harm.

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Well, that I agree with.

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But science is fucking cool. Without the awesome capability of some humans to greatly understand and apply math, you wouldn't be able to type that fucking message on this stupid forum. You think science and technology are unneccessary and evil... then why don't you GTFO and live in a forest or start your own tribe or some shit?
Science, technology and computers are awesome, but sadly, the way many humans often act is fucking stupid, authoritarian, etcetera.
I agree that the way schools teach math is, most of the time, inappropiate and mostly effective at removing interest on it and molding people to conform. High school math classes seem to have acted pretty effectively on you.
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No one (Well, me that is...) is suggesting that. I for one love science, but it's unfair to lump every profession in some sort of advanced-level math or science field and demand that people learn them. Especially when most of it is virtually forgotten and/or useless to most people

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(06-01-2012 08:15 AM)Derchin Wrote:  An example would be shopping and buying goods. A simple, yet effective way of adding all of your items up is to put it all in one equation and to solve it.

Ex: You get two cartons of eggs, three boxes of cereal, a loaf of bread, some toothpaste, and a gallon of apple juice. To add it all you either can take the time to add each item up one by one or you can use variables to represent the cost of each item. Or you can even wait until you get to the register, but if you're in a hurry (like most of us) or if the line is way too long, then doing the math while you're here wouldn't hurt and you could see how much it is to pay or if you have enough money to actually pay for it all.


As below:

Eggs- $3 a carton (A)
Cereal- $2 a box (B)
Bread- $2.50 a loaf [C]
Toothpaste- $3 a box (D)
Apple Juice- $2.75 a bottle (E)

Now put it all in one equation : 2A+3B+C+D+E and it equals to $18.25.

Something as simple as this is really useful to the common folk.

Umm fucking addition.

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(06-01-2012 08:17 AM)SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:  As I said, counting is useful. But the more complex forms of math is all about economics and science.

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>> "science isn't useful"

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Yeah what HoS said.

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(06-01-2012 08:25 AM)Lunatic Wrote:  But science is fucking cool. Without the awesome capability of some humans to greatly understand and apply math, you wouldn't be able to type that fucking message on this stupid forum. You think science and technology are unneccessary and evil... then why don't you GTFO and live in a forest or start your own tribe or some shit?
Science, technology and computers are awesome, but sadly, the way many humans often act is fucking stupid, authoritarian, etcetera.
I agree that the way schools teach math is, most of the time, inappropiate and mostly effective at removing interest on it and molding people to conform. High school math classes seem to have acted pretty effectively on you.

I don't see what's so cool about science. I don't see not one great invention they have brought us. Firstly, the understandings are very linear and systematic.

Plus, the methods are very isolating and harmful. like vivisection, and shit. It's basically about economics. The environment is the ever expendable variable and humans are administering the control variable over it. And in doing so they basically destroy it.

And come out with shit like this, computers, and nuclear bombs. Great fucking humanity. Computers, so we can have longer work days, zombify ourselves on to these machines, and waste life in an artificial reality. Instead of spending it with real actual human beings.

Argue about the world's problems with eachother on the internet, ad hominem, troll, and be stupid and counterproductive.

I think we can understand the world, without trying to dominating it. As 99 percent of human history has proved.

And really? Moving out into the woods starting a tribe? You do realize that I'm a radical anarchist? Tha'ts LIBERAL. I want to liberate the world.

Not be selfish bastard and try to illegally survive in what's left of the woods.

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I wish no harm on anyone, but those whose harmful ways will not stop without the same harm.

It's time we kill this cancerous system, before it kills us and everything left of gaia. Rise from our immaturity and take back our autonomy!

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(06-02-2012 06:55 AM)SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:  I don't see what's so cool about science. I don't see not one great invention they have brought us.

How about the computer your typing on you arrogant little shit? Or the vaccines that eradicated smallpox before you were even born?
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I'll start putting bets down on the possibility of an argument between Aya and Shotgun ending peacefully. $50 for starters.

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Not all scientists are motivated by money, Shotgun. Ever heard of Tesla? He was extremely close to providing worldwide communications and electricity for every person on the planet, and worked towards a more united world. His old boss Edison was so terrified of his potential that he electrocuted a circus elephant with the dangerous prototype of the safe alternating current system that Tesla invented to make most of the general public throw Tesla's eccentric but humanitarian notions out the window.

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Math is absolutely necessary. Sure, the average person doesn't need to know the ultra advanced shit, but without math and science you would not be on these forums spewing your bullshit all over the place. In fact, you would probably be dead, because without math and science there would be no vaccines for the horribad diseases that would kill you. Medical care would also be primitive, because you fucking need math to accurately measure a lot of things in relation to body weight, height, ect.

TLDR: Some form of math is required in your daily life, you dumb bitch.
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Even Sharpie admits it even though math isn't one of his strongest subjects at all.
actually my argument is now adsojahfaslkjfhasl because I don't care, fuck this thread
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(06-02-2012 08:59 AM)Lunatic Wrote:  Even Sharpie admits it even though math isn't one of his strongest subjects at all.

This. I'm not that good at math and I don't like doing it, but instead of making excuses and trying to justify my low skill in math by stating that math isn't necessary, I admit that it is, because IT IS.

You should do the same.
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SO MUCH MATHS WAS BEING DONE, WHEN YOU STARTED THIS THREAD. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE MATHS, THEN THIS FORUM WON'T EXIST. THERE WOULD BE NO INTERNET. FORGET ABOUT INTERNET, WE WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO COUNT OUR OWN FINGER. SO MMMUCH MATHS IS BEING DONE AS I AM WRITING THIS.

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How about this, people should have a fairly advanced understanding of maths and science in comparison to what they have now, if not to just make the commoners shut the fuck up about science KILLING US ALL, with BLACK HOLES and SPACE and MONKEY VIRUSES and LOGICZ.

I'm fucking tired of defending the Large Hadron Collider, I'm fucking tired of defending evolution and I'm fucking tired of defending mathematics.

People should start trying to defend their fucking ignorance, because it's sad and pathetic that you think not being able to figure out 2x = 4x - 3 is a fucking point of honour.

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(06-02-2012 06:57 AM)Aya Wrote:  
(06-02-2012 06:55 AM)SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:  I don't see what's so cool about science. I don't see not one great invention they have brought us.

How about the computer your typing on you arrogant little shit? Or the vaccines that eradicated smallpox before you were even born?

Shotgun you n000000000b

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Mention something language or social studies-related and everyone agrees on how useless it is. But math and science get free passes. XD

Yes, math and science are important (all subjects taught in school are important to SOMEONE out there other than the person teaching it), but complex forms of math and science are, like Shotgun has said, used for economics and science. Of course, not everyone is going to be in business or science, so for those people, such education about complex forms of math and science is worthless.
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And yet, most controversial issues are controversial because people don't pay attention to basic science.

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This is one of the funniest threads ever.

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I think the general population only needs 1 year of math (to learn the basics) and you should go to some extra school if u really want to learn it
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