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Subjects thatvshould be taught in school

As regular classes, not electives.
Math (up to a certain level)
Health (first aid, CPR)
Life skills (balance checkbook, basic finances, how to save money)
Pschology (just basicnstuff, so people can stop being immature and understand why people do what they do and understand the consequences of bullying)
How to think critically (This can be done a lot of different ways, reasons for it are obvious)
History (not the brand in school. I mean going in depth and connecting it to modern politics)

Thoughts? Contributions?

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RE: Subjects thatvshould be taught in school

There can't be a set of subjects to be taught to kids, IMO, that could all be taught in a traditional school day. The list would go on, that includes their interests (could be quite a few) and the crucial things needed in life (like some of what you listed above). And you have to consider the number of kids per class and if they truly get the material presented. Trying to get everyone on the same level could take a while, in-of-itself.

The only way all this could be taught would be if it were offered online where one could simply watch videos, chat with professionals and read articles on specific subjects and store them for future reference.

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I bet IamNoone means like the basics that everyone should learn excluding their interests. I think English should be, people at my school can't spell or even get remotely grammatically correct sentences. A few years of foreign language because where I live there's a lot of people who know foreign language and a lot of immigrants. More advance computer science. Like more in depth on excel and word and stuff. An art class of their choice, like maybe fashion design, music, painting or something . Like that.
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I would have given a lot for computer and network security - have to learn it by myself now :/

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(03-04-2012 12:25 PM)OasisxPoisonxProdigy Wrote:  I bet IamNoone means like the basics that everyone should learn excluding their interests.

Just like regular school?

(03-04-2012 12:25 PM)OasisxPoisonxProdigy Wrote:  I think A few years of foreign language because where I live there's a lot of people who know foreign language and a lot of immigrants.

Lot of immigrants= Lots of languages to master.

(03-04-2012 12:25 PM)OasisxPoisonxProdigy Wrote:  An art class of their choice, like maybe fashion design, music, painting or something . Like that.

But what you mentioned in the first one.....

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RE: Subjects thatvshould be taught in school

(03-04-2012 11:36 AM)IamNoone Wrote:  EDIT: I mean things that are essential in life, the stuff everyone needs to/should know.

As regular classes, not electives.
Math (up to a certain level)
Health (first aid, CPR)
Life skills (balance checkbook, basic finances, how to save money)
Pschology (just basicnstuff, so people can stop being immature and understand why people do what they do and understand the consequences of bullying)
How to think critically (This can be done a lot of different ways, reasons for it are obvious)
History (not the brand in school. I mean going in depth and connecting it to modern politics)

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So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
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Why did you quote your own post?

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(03-04-2012 12:43 PM)Derchin Wrote:  
(03-04-2012 12:25 PM)OasisxPoisonxProdigy Wrote:  I bet IamNoone means like the basics that everyone should learn excluding their interests.

Just like regular school?

(03-04-2012 12:25 PM)OasisxPoisonxProdigy Wrote:  I think A few years of foreign language because where I live there's a lot of people who know foreign language and a lot of immigrants.

Lot of immigrants= Lots of languages to master.

(03-04-2012 12:25 PM)OasisxPoisonxProdigy Wrote:  An art class of their choice, like maybe fashion design, music, painting or something . Like that.

But what you mentioned in the first one.....

regular school doesn't have the basics and tries to add advance things that most people don't care about.

If everyone knew more than one language there would be a possibility of being able to help immigrants, also many places have like majorities. Also Learning another language also helps with learning English.

In the first one I mean like excluding like autoshop for mechanics, majority of people are probably not going to major in art.
ART SHOULD BE MANDATORY BECAUSE IT HELPS YOU become more creative and think outside of the box, allows you to relax and many jobs need you to know something that uses art. architecture needs the ability to sketch and draw (last time I check), if you know music being an engineer that works with sounds would be easier.
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(03-04-2012 01:32 PM)OasisxPoisonxProdigy Wrote:  regular school doesn't have the basics and tries to add advance things that most people don't care about.

Well it does teach most of the basics (math, english, science, art) albeit not on a understandable and exciting level for everyone.


(03-04-2012 01:32 PM)OasisxPoisonxProdigy Wrote:  If everyone knew more than one language there would be a possibility of being able to help immigrants, also many places have like majorities. Also Learning another language also helps with learning English.

It takes time to just learn one language. And to master it like it is your own language takes even longer.

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(03-04-2012 01:32 PM)OasisxPoisonxProdigy Wrote:  regular school doesn't have the basics and tries to add advance things that most people don't care about.

The only thing more 'basic' than a public school education is an American public school education.

Quote:If everyone knew more than one language there would be a possibility of being able to help immigrants, also many places have like majorities. Also Learning another language also helps with learning English.

I agree but I don't see how learning a foreign language would help an individual with their native language. Language mastery comes from extensive reading, oration and debate. Not foreign language.

Quote:ART SHOULD BE MANDATORY BECAUSE IT HELPS YOU become more creative and think outside of the box,


Take your creativity and shove it up your ass. Art was the bane of my existence in school. Unless the teacher takes the time to teach the theory and mechanics behind art all you're doing is setting the UN talented kids up for failure and disappointment. Ditto with music. I went through 4 years of choral practice without ever knowing how to read sheet music, or play the notes on piano. How is that relaxing?

Quote:allows you to relax and many jobs need you to know something that uses art. architecture needs the ability to sketch and draw (last time I check), if you know music being an engineer that works with sounds would be easier.

Those are two very specific examples and they're not the norm. In the real world technical ability is what's required for most jobs, not art. Art is a hobby.


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RE: Subjects thatvshould be taught in school

Aya pretty much summed up my point. It takes quite a long time to master one subject alone and traditional school hours can't keep up with that.

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As far as I know they do teach you how to do things like cook and balance a check book. In my school, that all fell under home ec.
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Not in my school. I would bet a ton of others too.

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Basics about cooking food for yourself, basic things about money, banks, check books, ect. And how it all works, things about current events and politics (from this year or the last year or two, not from 20 years ago.

Also a full sex Ed class where they just give it to you straight, without bias or religious or other views put into it.
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(03-04-2012 11:36 AM)IamNoone Wrote:  History (not the brand in school. I mean going in depth and connecting it to modern politics)

I'd rather read the journals of old and dead people. I want to know what life was like for normal people at different times and in different places.

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(03-04-2012 02:56 PM)Derchin Wrote:  Not in my school. I would bet a ton of others too.

True. Home ec or independent living class. I know my school had both. Home ec in middle school and independent living in high school. Home ec teaches you the basics of cooking. Kitchen safety and food preparation techniques. The amount of cooking you actually do is minimal. A lot of that can be done on your own, but it's always beneficial to learn basic techniques and kitchen safety. Im guessing most schools assume kids learn that all at home, though. Most kids at my old school took home ec and independent living for an easy elective credit, though.
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Some things like cooking can actually be learned at home.

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(03-04-2012 02:49 PM)Teini Wrote:  As far as I know they do teach you how to do things like cook and balance a check book. In my school, that all fell under home ec.

Its not a required course in your school is it? In mine it isn't.
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RE: Subjects thatvshould be taught in school

(03-04-2012 11:36 AM)IamNoone Wrote:  As regular classes, not electives.
Math (up to a certain level)
Health (first aid, CPR)
Life skills (balance checkbook, basic finances, how to save money)
Pschology (just basicnstuff, so people can stop being immature and understand why people do what they do and understand the consequences of bullying)
How to think critically (This can be done a lot of different ways, reasons for it are obvious)
History (not the brand in school. I mean going in depth and connecting it to modern politics)

Thoughts? Contributions?
Would you also include things like in this article? http://www.cracked.com/article_18611_the...chool.html

Oh, and I had critical thinking lessons in school. Those were awesome.

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(03-04-2012 01:13 PM)Derchin Wrote:  Why did you quote your own post?
I just edited it. I didn't quote it, might be a glitch.

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(03-04-2012 07:18 PM)The Shadowman Wrote:  Would you also include things like in this article? http://www.cracked.com/article_18611_the...chool.html

Oh, and I had critical thinking lessons in school. Those were awesome.

Yes, I would include some of those.
And you had critical thinking lessons? Lucky

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(03-05-2012 02:44 AM)IamNoone Wrote:  
(03-04-2012 07:18 PM)The Shadowman Wrote:  Would you also include things like in this article? http://www.cracked.com/article_18611_the...chool.html

Oh, and I had critical thinking lessons in school. Those were awesome.

Yes, I would include some of those.
And you had critical thinking lessons? Lucky
Yeah, we had debates about subjects that had to do with school. Questions like 'should school uniforms be introduced?', and 'should compulsory education be abolished?'. The teacher was really awesome too. He taught us things like 'use your common sense', and 'never trust blindly. He also told us that teachers and the government have little actual power over you. In short, pure awesome.

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RE: Subjects thatvshould be taught in school

The implication that anything at all should be taught at public schools is a troubling one. By their nature, evident in the suffering of almost everyone on these forums, public schools are ill equipped to teach anything, much less subjects you would deem essential.

Also, in contrast to what you may see as common sense, it is often detrimental to "force" learning in any subject before the one being taught shows interest. If you need an example, think of how you and your peers feel about most subjects youbwere forced into.
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Basic Grammar & Reading & Literature
Basic Math
Basic Biology & Chem & Phys
Basic PE
Logic

5 years at all. From 6 year old to 11 year old. FREEDOM!
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There shouldn't be any mandatory classes anywhere

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(03-07-2012 06:49 AM)bulgvar666 Wrote:  Basic Grammar & Reading & Literature
Basic Math
Basic Biology & Chem & Phys
Basic PE
Logic

5 years at all. From 6 year old to 11 year old. FREEDOM!
I agree with this but you shouldn't have to start school till 11 years old and then go till your 16 and at that point you can go into the work force or intern to see what you like or even go to college and get a bachelors degree if you think you are ready for it and want to grow your thinking on one subject. Also you failed to mention basic Heath and consumer math also all these classes you should be able to test out of and if you are going faster then everyone else you should be able to skip some levels.
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(03-04-2012 11:36 AM)IamNoone Wrote:  Math (up to a certain level)
Math should be taught up to intermediate or basic algebra level and then after that it should be optional for those students who actually need it for their career.

Quote:Health (first aid, CPR)
I agree, but there's not much to teach about health for the whole year. I could teach someone CPR, First Aid and Sexual Health in a few lessons.

Quote:Life skills (balance checkbook, basic finances, how to save money)
Oh yes this! I'm nearly an adult and I have no idea how to do any of this paperwork shit because no one taught me. It might be easy though, so idk.

Quote:Pschology (just basicnstuff, so people can stop being immature and understand why people do what they do and understand the consequences of bullying)
I see where you're coming from. But I'm doing Year 11 Psychology now and to be honest it's all easy as piss. It's all common sense and the rest is just scientific method and the brain (and eye I guess). Maybe this should be incorporated with those health classes you previously mentioned.

Quote:How to think critically (This can be done a lot of different ways, reasons for it are obvious)
Isn't this just English?

Quote:History (not the brand in school. I mean going in depth and connecting it to modern politics)
Ehhh maybe required for a young age, but really I don't see it as being neccessary.

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I would make the class "Common sense for you fucking idiots"
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Now that is something I support. To bad students would start to really rebel after finally coming to common sense.

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(03-13-2012 06:25 AM)aCol Wrote:  Now that is something I support. To bad students would start to really rebel after finally coming to common sense.

Duh thats the point.
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