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Usually a leader in small groups is the first person to act and have good ideas. People associate success with that person and will follow them indefinatly
02-12-2012 05:03 AM
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Dirtbikemike
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I would consider myself a to be good leader, But there has to be something in it for me otherwise someone else can do it.
When I get put in a position of leadership related to something I'm interested in, I become extremely enthusiastic about it, it helps to draw in those who are more on the fence about participating. I do a good job keeping whatever we are doing fun while having things running at an efficient, industrious pace if needed. I have no problem jumping in and doing stuff myself either as opposed to simply delegating things out.
It can be a hell of alot of fun but you have to catch me at the right time, in the right mood.
(This post was last modified: 02-12-2012 12:25 PM by Thought Criminal.)
02-12-2012 12:23 PM
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(02-12-2012 09:20 PM)Efs Wrote: I'm a great leader brah. I'm usually the first one to take initiative, unite people together and spread the load equally.
That just sounded...wrong...
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02-13-2012 07:23 AM
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(02-12-2012 09:20 PM)Efs Wrote: I'm a great leader brah. I'm usually the first one to take initiative, unite people together and spread the load equally.
That just sounded...wrong...
Dirty mind? Clean it up with Orbit!
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(01-13-2012 10:37 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote: Mike you deserve an SS medal. Here, be proud:
Congrats for doing something I never had the balls to do.
If you have kids, save them from the bullshit you are forced to go through.
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(02-12-2012 09:20 PM)Efs Wrote: I'm a great leader brah. I'm usually the first one to take initiative, unite people together and spread the load equally.
That just sounded...wrong...
Dirty mind? Clean it up with Orbit!
A bullet is fine too.
@Topic: I don't really know - I've worked together with some friends to work against the principal and asked that one guy why I am in the team...
He said I'd be a genius at Strategy, cause I think everything through twice. Btw, everybody can be a good leader after reading Sunzi (and understanding it)
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(02-14-2012 05:55 AM)Sociopath Wrote: leaders are worthless.
Maybe in the typical "I tell you what to do and you shut up and do it" leadership fashion.
Good leadership is utilizing an individuals talents to help the whole group, and give individual members the power to take the initiative while the leader is more someone who keeps an eye on the big picture and guides the group towards success than a dictator.
This leadership fully utilizes and intelligence and knowledge of everyone to promote the success of a group as a whole, and is far more effective then a group of leaderless individuals or the aforementioned dictators.
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
-Immortal Technique, The Martyr, The Martyr
02-15-2012 08:16 AM
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I'd define the term good leadership as the task of managing a group by knowing and recognizing the individual talents of the people in it.
So a Leader is merely a person who organizes what has been done, what has to be done and, eventually after talking with the group, how it will be done.
A bad leader doesn't comply to this definition however, a bad leader won't recognize talent, but merely use the group to accomplish his own goals and abusing the power he has.
@aCol
The Art of War is a good book, yes, and a lot can be learned from it.
But to see how a truly good leader and a truly good team operates, read Ender's Game. I learned a ton from it, and it has a lot of other philosophical stuff in it to.
By Orson Scott Card
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
-Immortal Technique, The Martyr, The Martyr
02-16-2012 10:42 AM
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Miller0700
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If you re-read it, you realize you miss a lot the first time. And I don't know if you know this, but there are a few more sequels plus a whole separate series about Bean.
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
-Immortal Technique, The Martyr, The Martyr
I am only a good leader as the people who follow me are good followers. If they decide that I suck and not to follow what the group and I agree with then our group will be fucked.
02-16-2012 12:40 PM
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SoulRiser
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Depends on your definition of 'leader'. If it means telling people what to do, then no. I suck at that. I'd much rather just start doing what needs to be done and set an example, and then if people want to follow then that's their choice. But I don't want to tell people what to do...
If being a leader means you're generally the first one to take the initiative to do something, then yeah, in that sense I am, but that's pretty much it.
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Leadership is taking the initiative to evaluate a problem, come up with a remedy and see that remedy through to execution. If for some reason a leader can't follow through with that plan then he or she defers some or all of those duties to people better qualified; because a good leader knows when to follow.