Why Communism is Dumb

[~Mystery~]

A weakness in Marx's theory is that he doesn't give a good definition of labor other than that which creates a product. However his thinking seems to make the assumption that labor itself is exhaustive tedious and/or unpleasant. Today a biochemist researcher would be under regulation from the department of labor so it would be labor but what is it if the proletariat finds strength in his production? That being said I feel Marx's views on exploitation are remarkably accurate in how today Capitalism has moved in to create poverty in India, Peru, Thailand to name a few for the most profit.

A Good final critique of Karl Marx’s ideology was that since he was an absolutist on the extreme of the political spectrum he may have been used to help monopolists in a quest for more power serving as a historical ruse, a stratagem for the ruling elite. This would happen through the Communistic idea of creating a Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. You see Marx family tree is connected to the Rothschild family. Nathan Mayer Rothschild married Hannah Barent-Cohen, daughter of Levi Barent-Cohen and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen married Sara Brandes, the great-grandparents of Karl Marx.

“Nathan Rothschild had given Marx two checks for several thousand pounds to finance the cause of Socialism. So he wrote the Communist Manifesto The checks were put on display in the British Museum, after Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, a trustee, had willed his museum and library to them,” David Rivera.

This Confession of Marx below is of enormous importance. The workers, for him, are no more than instruments to weaken the existing governments and set the stage for the burgeoise to slice out the chaff and acheive complete earthly dominance.

"In this new organization of Humanity, the children of Israel, scattered to all corners of the earth, will be transformed, with no opposition at all, into the ruling class, above all, they will gather the working masses under their exclusive control. The Governments of the nations composing the future universal Republic will fall, without force, into the hands of the Israelites, thanks to the victory of the proletariat. Private property then will be eliminated by governments of the Jewish race who will administer, everywhere, the public funds." Karl Marx writes in a letter to Baruch Levi

If he had been an authentic anti-capitalist, Marx would have mentioned, in his communist works, the numerous capitalists who already at that time infested Europe. Examples are not lacking: the Pereyres, the Camondos, the Peixottos, the Mayers, the Reineches, the the Schneiders,Mendelssohns , and, above all, that "star of five points" constituted of the Rothschild Empire in Frankfort, London,Vienna , Paris, and Naples. An accumulation of riches obtained without work or any benefit at all to the community-but rather, to their detriment, as seen in every century. This would have been a beautiful example of destructive capitalism. But Marx keeps a discreet silence. For him, the only "capitalists" are directors of companies, industrialists, land-holders, and even experts and skilled workers who refuse to be reduced to the level of day-laborers with no position or benefits. Karl Marx said it best for the Specter still looms today, The Specter of Communism.

[Vatman]

This isn't really why communism is dumb, but why Karl Marx is dumb? In any case, I believe the inherit flaw of communism is the lack of accomplishment that a human naturally desires. He wants to kill the big deer and be the most famous hunter of the land. In the eyes of the individual; the world can never be truly equal.

[SaintVicious]

Human Greed and Sloth prevent communisim from working
Why should i study hard and become a doctor when i can make just as much as a janitor?

[The Desert Fox]

I fail to see how that proves communism is dumb.

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Surely this thread should be Why Mystery is Dumb

[Aya]

This ladies and gentlemen is why you should hide your computer before you take acid, meth or any combination of the two.

[~Mystery~]

Ayliana Wrote:This ladies and gentlemen is why you should hide your computer before you take acid, meth or any combination of the two.

so you don't become a dried up hag like the above ^

[Rebelnerd]

~Mystery~ Wrote:

Ayliana Wrote:This ladies and gentlemen is why you should hide your computer before you take acid, meth or any combination of the two.

so you don't become a dried up hag like the above ^

[HeartofShadows]

I love SS so much.

[Swift]

~Mystery~ Wrote:A weakness in Marx's theory is that he doesn't give a good definition of labor other than that which creates a product. However his thinking seems to make the assumption that labor itself is exhaustive tedious and/or unpleasant. Today a biochemist researcher would be under regulation from the department of labor so it would be labor but what is it if the proletariat finds strength in his production? That being said I feel Marx's views on exploitation are remarkably accurate in how today Capitalism has moved in to create poverty in India, Peru, Thailand to name a few for the most profit.

A Good final critique of Karl Marx’s ideology was that since he was an absolutist on the extreme of the political spectrum he may have been used to help monopolists in a quest for more power serving as a historical ruse, a stratagem for the ruling elite. This would happen through the Communistic idea of creating a Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. You see Marx family tree is connected to the Rothschild family. Nathan Mayer Rothschild married Hannah Barent-Cohen, daughter of Levi Barent-Cohen and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen married Sara Brandes, the great-grandparents of Karl Marx.

“Nathan Rothschild had given Marx two checks for several thousand pounds to finance the cause of Socialism. So he wrote the Communist Manifesto The checks were put on display in the British Museum, after Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, a trustee, had willed his museum and library to them,” David Rivera.

This Confession of Marx below is of enormous importance. The workers, for him, are no more than instruments to weaken the existing governments and set the stage for the burgeoise to slice out the chaff and acheive complete earthly dominance.

"In this new organization of Humanity, the children of Israel, scattered to all corners of the earth, will be transformed, with no opposition at all, into the ruling class, above all, they will gather the working masses under their exclusive control. The Governments of the nations composing the future universal Republic will fall, without force, into the hands of the Israelites, thanks to the victory of the proletariat. Private property then will be eliminated by governments of the Jewish race who will administer, everywhere, the public funds." Karl Marx writes in a letter to Baruch Levi

If he had been an authentic anti-capitalist, Marx would have mentioned, in his communist works, the numerous capitalists who already at that time infested Europe. Examples are not lacking: the Pereyres, the Camondos, the Peixottos, the Mayers, the Reineches, the the Schneiders,Mendelssohns , and, above all, that "star of five points" constituted of the Rothschild Empire in Frankfort, London,Vienna , Paris, and Naples. An accumulation of riches obtained without work or any benefit at all to the community-but rather, to their detriment, as seen in every century. This would have been a beautiful example of destructive capitalism. But Marx keeps a discreet silence. For him, the only "capitalists" are directors of companies, industrialists, land-holders, and even experts and skilled workers who refuse to be reduced to the level of day-laborers with no position or benefits. Karl Marx said it best for the Specter still looms today, The Specter of Communism.

cool story bro

[యూజర్ పేరు]

Whatever Mystery says is automatically invalid.

[KollerKid]

The only reason I'm ok with Communism, is that it enforces atheism. Which, is something I fully support.

[LOON_ATTIC]

KollerKid Wrote:The only reason I'm ok with Communism, is that it enforces atheism. Which, is something I fully support.

Fuck enforcing anything.

[Rebelnerd]

As a communist sympathizer, I'd like to say that that's the second most retarded reason for supporting communism I've ever heard. The first was admiration for Marx's hairstyle.

[KollerKid]

Rebelnerd Wrote:The first was admiration for Marx's hairstyle.

I lol'd

[Faby]

So have you guys seen the teaser trailer for Skyrim?

[Bob Dole]

Rebelnerd Wrote:As a communist sympathizer, I'd like to say that that's the second most retarded reason for supporting communism I've ever heard. The first was admiration for Marx's hairstyle.

Fuck you, man. Marx knew how to fucking ROCK that beard.

Quote:"In this new organization of Humanity, the children of Israel, scattered to all corners of the earth, will be transformed, with no opposition at all, into the ruling class, above all, they will gather the working masses under their exclusive control. The Governments of the nations composing the future universal Republic will fall, without force, into the hands of the Israelites, thanks to the victory of the proletariat. Private property then will be eliminated by governments of the Jewish race who will administer, everywhere, the public funds." Karl Marx writes in a letter to Baruch Levi

Source?

[The Desert Fox]

The Einstein look is basically the Karl Marx look without the beard.

[Rebelnerd]

HALCYON DREAMS Wrote:Fuck you, man. Marx knew how to fucking ROCK that beard.

Yeah, but Kropotkin's was better.

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KollerKid Wrote:The only reason I'm ok with Communism, is that it enforces atheism. Which, is something I fully support.

Uh no

Communism doesn't enforce atheism. It enforces the destruction of capitalism and the redistribution of wealth. Are you high?

[Rebelnerd]

Well, Marx did have a pretty bleak view of religion. The Church was always seen as just another enemy of the people. But animosity towards religion is just one small part of communism and becoming a communist because of it is stupid.

[aaaaaaasd]

Religion=Not Bad
Organised Religions=Bad
Theocracies=Very Bad

[LOON_ATTIC]

ProfessorVonStrangle Wrote:Religion=Not Bad
Organised Religions=Bad
Theocracies=Very Bad

FUCKING THIS
Fuck forcing anythin down anyone's throats, banning religion is as bad and fucking stupid as enforcing it.
filthy commies get off my lawn

[The Desert Fox]

ProfessorVonStrangle Wrote:Religion=Not Bad
Organised Religions=Bad

LOLTHIS.

[jnkbortka]

Communism is actually an awesome idea, but it wont work because:
Capitalism assumes people to be selfish,
Communism assumes people to be selfless.

the first is proven to be true

[HeartofShadows]

jnkbortka Wrote:Communism is actually an awesome idea, but it wont work because:
Capitalism assumes people to be selfish,
Communism assumes people to be selfless.

the first is proven to be true

Not to stomp on your ideology(I believe people to ultimately be selfish myself) but maybe its just the current societies ideology and maybe if the ideology changed than so would people's selfishness.

[UnschoolShqiponjë]

Everyone involved has to agree and not be forced into it. I personally prefer capitalism.

[The Desert Fox]

UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:Everyone involved has to agree and not be forced into it. I personally prefer capitalism.

Aren't people forced into capitalism as well?

[UnschoolShqiponjë]

The Desert Fox Wrote:

UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:Everyone involved has to agree and not be forced into it. I personally prefer capitalism.

Aren't people forced into capitalism as well?

I should have said I prefer a free market.

[HeartofShadows]

UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:

The Desert Fox Wrote:

UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:Everyone involved has to agree and not be forced into it. I personally prefer capitalism.

Aren't people forced into capitalism as well?

I should have said I prefer a free market.

Doesn't a unregulated free market eventually lead to corporatism?