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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.


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NightThoughts Offline
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My school has Accelerated Reader quizzes that we need to take-or else. Interestingly, these quizzes are supposed to give us a love of reading. We still have to answer questions about minutiae that didn't really affect the book and can't take extra quizzes in our leftover time. If you want to take another quiz you have to stay after and hope the teacher will let you in the computer lab. There's a deadline for when you have to take the quiz and now kids only read to get a good quiz grade. How are we supposed to love reading when we are forced to read books on their schedule? Not only that, there's only rarely free time and no books (beyond the curriculum-set literature books) to read for those who don't have a book with them. Which is almost everyone, since there's A) no time to grab a book, in the morning or between classes and B) no space in our lockers. Reading during class is punished even if you know the answers. Our ENGLISH teacher doesn't have books? We have spelling words like "no, now, its" to "review". It's all just easy review and no time to learn. I read Rudyard Kipling's "Rikki-tikki-tavi" in my free time and loved it, then got all that sucked out of me when we did inane amounts of work on it. We've been "learning" (forgive all the quotes) about nouns and pronouns. Then my English teacher assigned a theater review on plays we saw the day before Christmas vacation, AFTER the weeklong vacation. We also got seats in the very back, which was also high-up, by accident. Then she took points off for vagueness, titles she thought was too common, and apparently graded some parts of a rubric on the back of the assignment sheet. Hardly anyone noticed that back. The lady explained, "I took points off the title because I can." She has previously taken off points for being too sad, contradicted her own directions, and laughed at bad (for lack of a better word) occurrences. And that's just my thoughts on English. My Social Studies teacher is nice if prone to telling unhelpful stories and working out of the outdated book. In Math we have reviewed geometry, order of operations, properties such as distributive and commutative, and are working on negative numbers. All for the millionth time. And I entered this school system years later than most of my peers, so I don't even know if this was repeated previously. I make straight A's in Accelerated/Advanced classes, am taking the homework-intensive Latin and Mandarin Chinese, and am planning to try out for an honor band. I just won the spelling bee and came close last year. And yet I'm still expected to follow along with uninteresting curriculum? Why do I have to learn about chemistry when I want to learn about life science and genetics? Why do I have to scramble to write down basic (but intended to be complicated) vocabulary words and other possible test topics as I am distracted by bells, intended to indicate terms, that have changing meanings? I bet my teacher couldn't do that! I can give summaries of nearly anything I read with great accuracy, and analyze without useless, confusing methods like that. And why can't we learn new, interesting things and avoid all the time-stealing busy work that covers stupid topics? Is there any wonder I hate school? And yet my parents have ignored my pleas for homeschooling, despite many quotes I have found to back me up and proven that it's not expensive necessarily to homeschool. I'm at my wit's end and thinking of just not trying and devoting my time to actual learning.

I'd put a pithy quote here, but I'd rather speak for myself.

Superpowers aren't just flying and lifting several tons. Whatever you're good at, that's your superpower. Learn to deal with it.
01-25-2012 06:08 AM
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RE: School Rant

What school do you go to? We had the same exact "Accelerated Reader" thing at my middle school.

Edit: Also welcome to SS.

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(01-13-2012 10:37 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  Mike you deserve an SS medal. Here, be proud:
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Congrats for doing something I never had the balls to do.
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(01-25-2012 05:36 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  Balls of steel re-awarded. 
(02-07-2012 03:22 PM)flann Wrote:  Balls of Tungsten, now.

I found a picture for tungsten balls

(02-14-2012 03:17 PM)Maelstrom Wrote:  Your balls are denser than white dwarf star matter.
(03-13-2012 08:27 PM)M3116 Wrote:  Balls of steel re-re-reawarded Nutter

(05-14-2013 03:01 PM)Prince Darkstar Wrote:  Dirtbikemike is the only guy I know of on here who won an argument with a teacher.
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01-25-2012 06:33 AM
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Accelerated Reader sounds incredibly pointless. You could easily get lots of points just by choosing the highest book and asking for the questions becuse the book is so "hard". Passing a test doesn't prove you understood anything about a book, just that you can pass a mini-standardized test. And grammar review gets on my nerves, too. School House Rock taught about parts of speech, why would you need to be re-taught in Middle and High school?

btw, welcome to SS, where not trying and actual learning is pretty damn standard.

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U.S. Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, Tinker v. Des Moines (1969) Wrote:In our system, state-operated schools may not be enclaves of totalitarianism. School officials do not possess absolute authority over their students. Students in school as well as out of school are "persons" under our Constitution."
Rebelnerd Wrote:Human rights are being violated by US law enforcement. This is what the media is here for, you're supposed to be the watchdogs! You're supposed to stand up for the downtrodden, not belittle them as though all their problems amount to nothing more than some angry glares toward parents and sabotaging their computers.
I've seen so much shit done to youth and for some reason, this has made me angrier than I've felt in years. Abuse and oppression happens all over the world. It's a terrible reality of modern society, but we've all accepted that it happens and we're doing what we can to fight it and build a better world.
But this...this mindless, condescending disrespect toward people who have no legal voice with which to defend themselves, this reduction of parents' betrayal into a cheap crack about kids being's like watching a surgeon joke about life insurance while his patient bleeds to death on the operating table. The media's job is to protect society from oppression and they've drawn a clear line between the people worth protecting and the people that don't matter. How can they people sleep at night?

You're a journalist. DO. YOUR. FUCKING. JOB.

(04-28-2010 08:17 AM)Liquid Wrote:  Laws never seem to help people fight School. Laws only matter if the students are braking them...

(12-03-2011 07:40 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Solution to all these problems: don't fuck people you can't negotiate with in a civilized manner.
(02-09-2012 02:14 PM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  The only solution is democratic self-paced education where students can excel in what they are good at and work on what their not if necessary, AT THEIR OWN DAMN PACE IN THEIR OWN DAMN WAY.

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01-25-2012 06:47 AM
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I have accelerated reader

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01-25-2012 07:10 AM
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(01-25-2012 06:33 AM)dirtbikemike204 Wrote:  What school do you go to? We had the same exact "Accelerated Reader" thing at my middle school.

Edit: Also welcome to SS.

I go to middle school myself, where the guidance counselors have their own class and try to fix things with deep breathing. Did your school have "Advanced", "Standard", and "Reinforced" levels of supposed difficulty? Or something similar? Really, it's all a way to give us smart people more homework and be more critical when we go over the same stuff at a slow pace.

I'd put a pithy quote here, but I'd rather speak for myself.

Superpowers aren't just flying and lifting several tons. Whatever you're good at, that's your superpower. Learn to deal with it.
01-26-2012 07:29 AM
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