I should be allowed to do what I NEED.

[fish20]

I've been wanting to become a game designer ever since I was 8. Its stupid how just because some people don't know what they want to do when they leave school means I have to sit through biology and algebra 2 etc. because other people MIGHT become scientists. Basic education should be able to stop after 8th grade if you know what you want to do. It should just be like college. High school is so pointless, its just tacked on advanced stuff that most people won't need at all. Elementary school is okay because it teaches people how to read and they actually do fun stuff in early years, but high school is a waste of time. If I could stay home and make games for 4 years before going to college I would have so much more experience, and if I created some big game like Cave Story or Minecraft or Braid etc. then I wouldn't even need a high school diploma or degree to make money.

[SaintVicious]

learn visual basic C++ and C# for da gamez

[fish20]

school is wasting time with bullshit so it'll take longer.

[SaintVicious]

(01-21-2012 01:14 PM)Fish Wrote:  school is wasting time with bullshit so it'll take longer.

You should be able to take Visual basic in HS, also maybe a graphic design class ( you can pick up some good ctrl functions to make life easier)

[fish20]

(01-21-2012 01:16 PM)SaintVicious Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 01:14 PM)Fish Wrote:  school is wasting time with bullshit so it'll take longer.

You should be able to take Visual basic in HS, also maybe a graphic design class ( you can pick up some good ctrl functions to make life easier)

They don't have programming classes, and I have to take some stupid Keyboarding computer class (which I pretty much already took in 7th grade but apparently that didn't count.) which you learn common sense computer stuff that everyone already knows in order to take graphic design. But I also can't do that because next year I have to take a mandatory health class, spanish 2, and this band which I don't want to ge out of. And I cant take it this year because I have to take bullshit career class (which I pretty much already took in 7th grade) and some really pointless leadership skill class which is such a fucking waste of time and you learn nothing.

[SaintVicious]

easy classes free GPA bro

[Efs]

Should he learn C++ and make his own engine or just use another like CryEngine or UE and just buy the license when he's done?

[fish20]

(01-21-2012 02:34 PM)Efs Wrote:  Should he learn C++ and make his own engine or just use another like CryEngine or UE and just buy the license when he's done?

Lol make my own engine? There's a reason engines are millions of dollars for companies like Epic Games and Crytek, because they're fucking impossible to make unless you have a big team of experienced programmers and a lot of time and money.

[Efs]

(01-21-2012 02:43 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:34 PM)Efs Wrote:  Should he learn C++ and make his own engine or just use another like CryEngine or UE and just buy the license when he's done?

Lol make my own engine? There's a reason engines are millions of dollars, because they're fucking impossible to make unless you have a big team of experienced programmers and a lot of time and money.

I thought so :|
The game industry is hard to get into, and a role as a Game Designer is one you have to work your way up to and usually not a job you fall straight in to.

[fish20]

(01-21-2012 02:46 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:43 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:34 PM)Efs Wrote:  Should he learn C++ and make his own engine or just use another like CryEngine or UE and just buy the license when he's done?

Lol make my own engine? There's a reason engines are millions of dollars, because they're fucking impossible to make unless you have a big team of experienced programmers and a lot of time and money.

I thought so :|
The game industry is hard to get into, and a role as a Game Designer is one you have to work your way up to and usually not a job you fall straight in to.

Yeah but for Indie games its not impossible, just look at Nifilas, he made Cave Story in 5 years all by himself and hes making lots of money on WiiWare and DSiWare, and that guy that made Minecraft is a millionare.

[Efs]

(01-21-2012 02:48 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:46 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:43 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:34 PM)Efs Wrote:  Should he learn C++ and make his own engine or just use another like CryEngine or UE and just buy the license when he's done?

Lol make my own engine? There's a reason engines are millions of dollars, because they're fucking impossible to make unless you have a big team of experienced programmers and a lot of time and money.

I thought so :|
The game industry is hard to get into, and a role as a Game Designer is one you have to work your way up to and usually not a job you fall straight in to.

Yeah but for Indie games its not impossible, just look at Nifilas, he made Cave Story in 5 years all by himself and hes making lots of money on WiiWare and DSiWare, and that guy that made Minecraft is a millionare.

Oh well fair enough if you wanna go indie.
I'm just saying some people want to be a game designer and expect an AAA+ game with their name on it lol
What software will you be using?

[fish20]

(01-21-2012 04:20 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:48 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:46 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:43 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:34 PM)Efs Wrote:  Should he learn C++ and make his own engine or just use another like CryEngine or UE and just buy the license when he's done?

Lol make my own engine? There's a reason engines are millions of dollars, because they're fucking impossible to make unless you have a big team of experienced programmers and a lot of time and money.

I thought so :|
The game industry is hard to get into, and a role as a Game Designer is one you have to work your way up to and usually not a job you fall straight in to.

Yeah but for Indie games its not impossible, just look at Nifilas, he made Cave Story in 5 years all by himself and hes making lots of money on WiiWare and DSiWare, and that guy that made Minecraft is a millionare.

Oh well fair enough if you wanna go indie.
I'm just saying some people want to be a game designer and expect an AAA+ game with their name on it lol
What software will you be using?

Probably Multimedia Fusion 2 because it has exporters to Flash/Android/Ios/EXE, I'm used to using it, and it doesn't need elite programming skills.

But I mean only for the time being, I do want to work for a company and do the triple A thing, but for now I'm in school.

[Efs]

(01-21-2012 05:03 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 04:20 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:48 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:46 PM)Efs Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:43 PM)Fish Wrote:  Lol make my own engine? There's a reason engines are millions of dollars, because they're fucking impossible to make unless you have a big team of experienced programmers and a lot of time and money.

I thought so :|
The game industry is hard to get into, and a role as a Game Designer is one you have to work your way up to and usually not a job you fall straight in to.

Yeah but for Indie games its not impossible, just look at Nifilas, he made Cave Story in 5 years all by himself and hes making lots of money on WiiWare and DSiWare, and that guy that made Minecraft is a millionare.

Oh well fair enough if you wanna go indie.
I'm just saying some people want to be a game designer and expect an AAA+ game with their name on it lol
What software will you be using?

Probably Multimedia Fusion 2 because it has exporters to Flash/Android/Ios/EXE, I'm used to using it, and it doesn't need elite programming skills.

But I mean only for the time being, I do want to work for a company and do the triple A thing, but for now I'm in school.

Hmm I might use that if I need it.
But I'm going to do some FPS and RPG games.
So I need 3d engine >.<

[aCol]

(01-21-2012 02:43 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:34 PM)Efs Wrote:  Should he learn C++ and make his own engine or just use another like CryEngine or UE and just buy the license when he's done?

Lol make my own engine? There's a reason engines are millions of dollars for companies like Epic Games and Crytek, because they're fucking impossible to make unless you have a big team of experienced programmers and a lot of time and money.

That is a fucking lie. You CAN make a game engine on your own. It isn't easy, but possible. The difference, however, is HUGE, compared to CryTek's engine or the unreal or whatosever.
Also, we should talk more about making games, I'd enjoy it too.

[flann]

I want to be a game designer too but no classes until college.

So i'm wasting 4 years of my life just doing nothing

[fish20]

(01-22-2012 06:24 AM)aCol Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:43 PM)Fish Wrote:  

(01-21-2012 02:34 PM)Efs Wrote:  Should he learn C++ and make his own engine or just use another like CryEngine or UE and just buy the license when he's done?

Lol make my own engine? There's a reason engines are millions of dollars for companies like Epic Games and Crytek, because they're fucking impossible to make unless you have a big team of experienced programmers and a lot of time and money.

That is a fucking lie. You CAN make a game engine on your own. It isn't easy, but possible. The difference, however, is HUGE, compared to CryTek's engine or the unreal or whatosever.
Also, we should talk more about making games, I'd enjoy it too.

Yeah, but I meant why should I make an engine if it can't even closely compare to Cryengine 3 and Unreal which cost lots of money make.

[M3116]

Yeah or they should offer actually useful classes like finances and stuff, and not have requirements for graduation just because a percentage of students want to use their state-required education to get accepted into an actual university. You should choose your classes. And choose the classes you don't take, so that you have actual time to pursue your life activities. And your performance should reflect that too. Like if you're brilliant in engineering the slags can't make you take English. And who the hell says you have to stay in school until 16? What about the dipshits that don't want to be there and just lower everything for themselves and those that do? They both lose. It's the reason you have to stay a minor until 18, and that causes more problems. And then the central elitists who think they're qualified to operate the system decide to insert their idiot deductions ie, well now that we have them all gathered up they SHOULD be getting x amount of exercise and learn useless sports too thus PE is a graduation requirement. I have news- not everyone has to have a job. In fact it needs to be that way. Otherwise it's Marxism all over again. So why does everyone have a state sanctioned education from a certain point onward, and why is it organized by age?