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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
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+ Allow use of internet on break
+ Teachers are nice
+Library where I can read something interesting
+ Tasty food
Cons
-Retarded classmates
-A VERY FUCKIN RETARDED KID that goes like fuckin crazy and shove me around.
-A VERY CRAZY FAT CHICK that throw things at my face.
-I always end up guilty when I am involved with trouble caused by a douche.
-They don't allow any kind of clothes that isn't school uniform.
-They make us pray every day (Christian school)
-There are always shit, drawings of penises and piss in the bathrooms
I drew a large box on the school's washroom wall that was titled: Draw a penis or joint on here. As of December 21st, the box has over 47 drawings of genitalia confined into it's 8 inch spacing.
Pros:
• There are a few teachers who are awesome, especially my history teacher
• Some of the kids there are very self-aware of the duldrum and wastefulness that is Western public secondary education
•Good music program and talented artists
Cons:
• Strictly religious, anti-atheist and homophobic
• Uniforms strip away the individuality of me and my peers
• Most teachers are arrogant, ageist, and reek of huge egos
• You can't sketch or write poetry in your notebook without being called a "nappy wanker faggitino" or some mixture of Italian-Canadian insults
• If you're not Italian, British or Irish, there's a high chance that you'll be relentlessly persecuted against.
• So many more obvious(and occasionally outrageous) reasons.
If you're reading this, I killed myself.
01-12-2012 10:26 AM
Thanks given by:
NightThoughts
Night changes the way you think.
Posts: 158
Joined: Jan 2012
Pros: Foreign language classes, semi-decent hot lunches. The occasional unbroken smart kid.
Cons: AP kids get more homework/classwork as a reward for having demonstrated mastery of the curriculum we had last year, which are repeated this year. (No, I didn't repeat) Tons of rude kids. Mean teacher who teaches the most useless subject I know of, Technology Education. At least what's in the class is useless, not the subject necessarily. Out of control band. Tons of time devoted to Rachel's Challenge, on our half-days. One teacher who goes against herself (multiple personalities perhaps? haha) and assigns stupid projects. Useless class called Library, that teaches nothing and repeats everything. Art class that can only be described in the English language as dumb, stupid, mindless, nonsensical, and a host of other synonyms. I could go on...
I'd put a pithy quote here, but I'd rather speak for myself.
Superpowers aren't just flying and lifting several tons. Whatever you're good at, that's your superpower. Learn to deal with it.
hewhodestroysall Wrote:Honestly I never figured the point of the esrb.
Point is you can't censor reality.
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, Tinker v. Des Moines (1969) Wrote:In our system, state-operated schools may not be enclaves of totalitarianism. School officials do not possess absolute authority over their students. Students in school as well as out of school are "persons" under our Constitution."
Rebelnerd Wrote:Human rights are being violated by US law enforcement. This is what the media is here for, you're supposed to be the watchdogs! You're supposed to stand up for the downtrodden, not belittle them as though all their problems amount to nothing more than some angry glares toward parents and sabotaging their computers.
I've seen so much shit done to youth and for some reason, this has made me angrier than I've felt in years. Abuse and oppression happens all over the world. It's a terrible reality of modern society, but we've all accepted that it happens and we're doing what we can to fight it and build a better world.
But this...this mindless, condescending disrespect toward people who have no legal voice with which to defend themselves, this reduction of parents' betrayal into a cheap crack about kids being computer-savvy...it's like watching a surgeon joke about life insurance while his patient bleeds to death on the operating table. The media's job is to protect society from oppression and they've drawn a clear line between the people worth protecting and the people that don't matter. How can they people sleep at night?
You're a journalist. DO. YOUR. FUCKING. JOB.
(04-28-2010 08:17 AM)Liquid Wrote: Laws never seem to help people fight School. Laws only matter if the students are braking them...
(12-03-2011 07:40 AM)SoulRiser Wrote: Solution to all these problems: don't fuck people you can't negotiate with in a civilized manner.
(02-09-2012 02:14 PM)Absentinsomniac Wrote: The only solution is democratic self-paced education where students can excel in what they are good at and work on what their not if necessary, AT THEIR OWN DAMN PACE IN THEIR OWN DAMN WAY.
Don't Board the Censor Ship
01-25-2012 07:02 AM
Thanks given by:
James Comey
Banished Oldfaf in Exile
Posts: 6,500
Joined: Aug 2013
My school's pros:
*Some cool teachers here and there
My school's cons:
*Pretty dirty and slightly derelict.
*A bunch of cliques which I don't get along with. Swag kids/fake gangstas and the really stereotypical Latina girls are the ones that get on my nerves the most.
*Crap lunch. And the cafeteria has a god-awful smell.
*That history teacher that always gets on my nerves.
*Police on campus, and pretty bad zero tolerance policy.
*Really boring-looking place in general.
*Some pretty strict rules, like no iPods on campus.
Pros:
-Two teachers who respect students(out of 6 periods)
-Some respectful and nice students(although there are annoying ones,
but the annoying kids don't purposely try to annoy you)
Cons
-You can't leave during lunch, break is only 15 min, lunch is only 30 minutes
-2 police officers on campus
-No joke,none of the rooms have windows
-All buildings look the same
-Some asshole teachers
-Homework, and homework over WEEKENDS.(odd, only end of workweek for adults?)
-PE required for two years, in which we do nothing pretty much
-Most teachers won't let you use your phone in class(with only two exceptions)
-Many teachers just drone on and on without ever letting students talk
-The bell. I absolutely despise it, it's so loud and annoying.
-Every single desk is the same, and the chairs are ATTACHED to the desks. It's the stupidest chair/desk design ever, in that you
can't move around with them and you can only get in from one side.(so if you drop something over the wrong side you have to ask someone else
to grab it for you)
-Food served at lunch which is very unhealthy and tastes like shit
Pros:
-Some really decent teachers
-A good fine arts program
-A separate hall where all the gifted kids are (I guess that's good for me? I'm not sure)
-Rewards for doing absolutely nothing at all (i.e, Cola for not getting ISS/OSS during the month of December)
Cons:
-Dirty Bathrooms
-Cafeteria food. 'nough said.
-Gym class. You don't really learn anything, all the teachers want is for you to study the things they provide on their website. You also get teams that are unfairly balanced during activities.
-The proxy on computers is dumb, blocking most videos and not allowing us to access internet resources.
-Lunch is 20 minutes, and that's the only break that you have the entire day.
-Unless you're in some sort of honor fine arts/extracurricular program, you don't have a field trip. 3 years without a field trip to some place.
-No music in the halls.
-Bitchy cafeteria ladies who curse near students.
-Mandatory clubs every Friday. The clubs are mostly uninteresting, but you're forced to pick one, like Recycling club, Star Wars or...Walking club.
-Most books get absolutely destroyed after a few months.
I leik being a pyro and spy...in an online hat simulator.
- Nice fine arts program
- There are some decent people that aren't complete dumbasses
- A Subway and a bank inside the school building itself
- Some teachers and counselors are aware of the problems with the current educational system
- You can leave campus during lunch, whether you are a freshman or senior
- Electronic devices can now be used during passing periods and in class (with teacher permission), instead of only strictly before/after school and lunch like previous years. Great for doing research, coding, texting, etc. Makes a school day easier to bear.
Cons:
- The food is crap. I heard that the Subway in school charges more than the Subway chains outside, and I heard mixed things about the food.
- LOTS of idiots are crammed into the same building
- The building is severely overpopulated
- A lot of teachers are arrogant snobs
- People drop food all over the place and never clean up after themselves
- Bathrooms are fucking disgusting
- There are police officers present all the time
- Excessive use of bribery to get kids to come to school
- Truancy policy
* And many more...
I often forget about the existence of the thanks button on these forums...
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"The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma."
~ Patrick Star
01-08-2014 02:08 PM
Thanks given by:
Marlena403
School Lover
Posts: 248
Joined: Aug 2016
*Very nice teachers (Except my current English teacher)
*Tasty food
*In December we watch the Christmas Panto where Year 12 and Year 13 students perform as teachers
*We are allowed to use Internet at breaktime and lunchtime (Not YouTube though)
Cons
*Stupid classmates who get others in trouble, throw things and EVEN take off my math teacher's headscarf and make her cry.
*People write things on the bathroom stalls such as "I hate you, Coldplay" and "Tick if you think you're pretty." They also write on the classroom doors and on the benches near C block and D block.
*My current English teacher treats students like dogs.
Pros:
Little to no homework
A few nice teachers (only a few.)
Clean bathrooms.
Peers are actually kinda cool.
I can't really think of much more.
Cons:
Mean teachers
Being treated like a little kid despite age.
Mean principals/directors.
This double standard system. (It would take too long to explain well here.)
The ridiculous amount of rules, as more are being made every few days.
None of the teachers really care about the students that much.
Lots of school work.
P.E.
"Time out room" concept. (See second con)
We're not allowed to argue back if we have something to say.
Many more that I can't really think of easily...
Comparing students by their personality is like comparing a blanket to the sun, in terms of which one produces more light. Comparing students is just an excuse to exploit their weaknesses.
(This post was last modified: 01-14-2017 07:26 AM by RoundAndRound.)
01-14-2017 07:24 AM
Thanks given by:
Superkamiguru
Resistance Leader
Posts: 202
Joined: Dec 2016
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
02-06-2017 02:40 AM
Thanks given by:
Superkamiguru
Resistance Leader
Posts: 202
Joined: Dec 2016
-Mandatory clubs every Friday. The clubs are mostly uninteresting, but you're forced to pick one, like Recycling club, Star Wars or...Walking club.
What? Is this a joke?
Hidden stuff:
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
Pros:
-Barely any homework
-Ninety minutes of study time each day
-Some students who know about true reality
-Substitute teachers with interesting stories
-Almost no fighting whatsoever
-Decent school lunches
-A quiet and friendly library
Cons:
-Noisy kids in the back of the class
-The same routine each day
-If you have any public view that isn't left of centre, you'll be called names
-Very limited class selections
-Teachers rarely work through concepts with their students
-A few teachers who let others walk all over them
-Long bus rides for clubs (50 minutes when my usual is 20 minutes)
-Counsellors who spew the same old rubbish over and over again
pros:
-no bullies whatsoever, and if you want to be a bully then be prepared to bring some bandages
-very few homeworks
-you can make friends easily
-my geology teacher
-monthly riots during recess that makes us go home early, i am not joking
-computer class
-all doors leading to the outside are open but BE WARNED
-the local gangs, there some pretty fun to watch fights when the school is over
-bathrooms are a safe haven when skipping class, if you can mind the smell
cons
-you have to pay for lunch, yes PAY
-my math teacher
-the principal
-the administration
-the schools nurse who will give you panadol even if your legs shattered
-sudden tests and the grin on the teacher's face when he give us one
-no p.e class :(
-if you were late for class, even for 1 minute then you will be registered absent for the whole day and a message will be sent to your parents
(This post was last modified: 02-12-2017 09:20 PM by magok.)