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An emerging anarchy?

Stuff like this and this and the way wikileaks is invincible through mirror sites, makes me wonder if this is a new anarchy. If the internet becomes truly free and unstoppable then what power will governments have any more?
12-11-2010 10:08 PM
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Re: An emerging anarchy?

Enjoy it while you can. Net neutrality will never survive capitalism in the long run, it'll take a revolution to protect the internet to protect the internet revolution...catch 22. The internet is a tool but real change has to happen in the real world.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
12-12-2010 12:54 AM
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Well yes, at the end of the day the government can march up to your door and put a bullet into your hard drive, but the thing is I think the revolution can rise out of the internet. The internet is the infrastructure, it's been valuable in organising protests both online and offline(via facebook).

I think a solution might even be in making the internet population more like anonymous, if the whole anonymous thing was more mainstream then what limit would there be to what can be organised through the internet?

You don't have to be a basement dweller to use the internet anymore, wifi, public libraries, smartphones etc means the internet is everywhere now.

People organise protests through facebook and online raids through chans, what if a full blown revolution was organised through the internet? Maybe it's already building up to it...

ps In fact even this website is evidence of this. SS is a global gathering, the internet bypasses borders and laws. It's like a anarchist version of NWO.
12-12-2010 02:18 PM
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The internet will not be the CAUSE of revolution. I think you guys are overthinking its role. With world tensions on the rise like they are, shit is bound to hit the fan sooner or later. Shit is going down already, Riots in london, strikes in france, strikes and riots in greece, the G-20 in canada, plus our resources are dwindling. We will run out of oil within the next 30 years or so, world commerce will stop, there will be food riots, protests and general chaos while the world powers try to keep hold but ultimately it will all collapse. The internet WILL play a very big role in it but there are way bigger beasts that are going to fall and fall soon.
Personally I think the internet has become to ingrained in our society for it to go away and any attempt at a mass censorship by the united states would get fucking ugly.
12-12-2010 02:37 PM
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I think the more activists build "freedom" infrastructure the better, like dot-p2p, various anonymous services etc. We also need to become independent of stuff like PayPal, wikileaks got abandoned by it, which means we can't rely on it. Basically there should be an anarchist version of anything that abandoned Assange.

If we build our own infrastructure then the government can't stop us at the click of their fingers. If we all have alternative services then the government can't shut us down if the shit hits the fan one day.

From wikipedia:

Quote:Anonymous P2P in a wireless mesh network

It is possible to implement anonymous P2P used on a wireless mesh network: unlike fixed internet connections, users don't need to sign up with an ISP to participate in such a network, and are only identifiable through their hardware. Even if a government were to outlaw the use of wireless P2P software, it would be difficult to enforce such a ban without a considerable infringement of personal freedoms. Alternatively, the government could outlaw the purchase of the wireless hardware itself. Protocols for wireless mesh networks are OLSR and the follow-up protocol B.A.T.M.A.N., which is designed for decentralized auto-IP assignment. See also Netsukuku.

If we all built infrastructure like that then the government can't censor us or stop us from communicating. I think a free internet is a major tool of a revolution in a day and age where we rely on it for a lot of stuff.
12-12-2010 09:24 PM
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I do like the idea of anon P2P though. Are there many people using this?
12-13-2010 02:22 AM
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