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Controversial issues are bad
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Controversial issues are bad

In class on Friday, my teacher was talking about people being misled by society (we were talking about Huck Finn, this was in English class) into following traditions like slavery simply because this was the way it had always been done. Then we got onto the topic of young men being misled by society into going into unnecessary wars (WWI, Vietnam) because they would get "glory" whereas in reality they would likely die or come home with PTSD and missing limbs.

And then someone mentioned the war in Iraq and my teacher shook her head and said something like, "Well that's too recent, it'd be controversial, we're not gonna talk about that. This isn't that kind of class." And we went back to the book.

What the fuck. Aren't we supposed to talk about stuff like that? What's the fucking point in avoiding controversial topics? Isn't it good to debate? Maybe in 1835, in Huck Finn's time, someone said, "Well I think slavery is inhumane" and someone else said "Now let's not talk about that it's controversial"

Go to work. Send your kids to school. Follow fashion. Act normal. Walk on the pavement. Watch TV. Save for your old age. Obey the law. Repeat after me: "I am free."

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RE: Controversial issues are bad

WERE ALL LIVING IN AMERIKA...AMERIKA... A VUNDERBARRR (bad german pronunciation).

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12-12-2011 04:09 AM
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RE: Controversial issues are bad

It's the same reason we can make 9/11 jokes now without too many people getting pissed compared to a week after it happened where you would have been beaten to a pulp by an angry mob. Technically, the Iraq War is still going on and withdrawal is meant to happen at the end of the year (heh, like that will happen) but people lump it in with all the conflict going on the middle east which has much bigger ramifications and IT'S TOO CONTROVERSIAL YO
12-12-2011 04:14 AM
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We shouldn't hurt others feelings now. mmmmmmaky.

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12-12-2011 04:23 AM
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RE: Controversial issues are bad

Controversiality is another means of control, it seems.
If you need someone to shut up about a subject you don't want them to talk about, then tell them it is too controversial.
The person you told to shut up will immediatly assume that, when he continues to talk about the subject, he will instantly be shunned from society or burned at the stake.
12-12-2011 04:37 AM
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RE: Controversial issues are bad

It is the educational system and parents. It could also be the teacher but he/she could also be watching their ass. A teacher in my highschool got in trouble for having an open discussion about terrorism in 2004. When the government expected us to just assume they were attacking terrorists.

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RE: Controversial issues are bad

And by 'not now',

She means 'never'

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12-12-2011 03:29 PM
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RE: Controversial issues are bad

Tell her that what she just said was controversial. Her opinion that we should avoid talking about controversial things IS ITSELF CONTROVERSIAL.

(01-10-2012 02:15 PM)Maelstrom Wrote:  Efs, your nihilism is beautiful.
12-12-2011 03:34 PM
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