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School and failure.
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RandomTroll
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School and failure.
Let me start of with few quotes:
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
"Failure is always an option." - Mythbusters
"Don't be afraid to fail" - Me (and probably thousands of other people)
What's wrong with failure and school. Seriously. We are not allowed to fail anywhere, we are expected to get everything on first or second attempt. If we don't, we get shouted at, we are told, that we are failures with no future, just because we failed to write a sentence correctly, or solved a math problem and got a wrong answer. But when a teacher fails something, it's totally ok, because "Failing is in human nature", then why can't we fail. Nobody becomes a "pro" at something without mistakes, you learn from mistakes, that's how you become better at something. So embrace failure and learn from it, because failure is in human nature.
Here's some stories from my personal life:
I'm an electronics hobbyist and I have burnt dozens of electronics parts, because I plugged them backwards or soldered them incorrectly or lifted the solder pads.
I've been programming since 14 years (now 16), sometimes I sit for hours searching one simple mistake that I made in my code.
One time in my programming class, one girl missed a semicolon at the end of the line, when the compiler spewed dozens of errors (all linked to the semicolon) she started crying and told me that she was a failure and was unable to learn, I quickly found the mistake and fixed it and told her that everything is ok, but she started panicking and crying even more, because it was such a simple mistake. I was all "the fuck woman?"
Ask anyone who just got their driver's license and are driving for the first time on the road by them selves. Mistakes are made.
I'm sure you know stories like this yourself.
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RE: School and failure.
School sets people up to fail, and then punishes them for failing.
No, this is Patrick.
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RE: School and failure.
(12-06-2011 07:26 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote: School sets people up to fail, and then punishes them for failing.
Yea, probably, but the thing that I don't get is why we get punished for simplest mistakes? Why?
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RE: School and failure.
(12-06-2011 07:30 AM)RandomTroll Wrote: (12-06-2011 07:26 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote: School sets people up to fail, and then punishes them for failing.
Yea, probably, but the thing that I don't get is why we get punished for simplest mistakes? Why?
Because the system that schools use nowadays wasn't intended to help people learn in the first place.
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RE: School and failure.
(12-06-2011 08:07 AM)Liquid Wrote: (12-06-2011 07:30 AM)RandomTroll Wrote: (12-06-2011 07:26 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote: School sets people up to fail, and then punishes them for failing.
Yea, probably, but the thing that I don't get is why we get punished for simplest mistakes? Why?
Because the system that schools use nowadays wasn't intended to help people learn in the first place.
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Liquid
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RE: School and failure.
Yep, look it up 
The "Prussian System" wasn't created to aid learning. It replaced a better system that existed before it.
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RE: School and failure.
(12-06-2011 07:26 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote: School sets people up to fail, and then punishes them for failing.
I think I'm gonna print that on one of the T-Shirts I'll be wearing on my graduation day. That should really motivate the smaller pupils.
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RE: School and failure.
(12-06-2011 08:07 AM)Liquid Wrote: (12-06-2011 07:30 AM)RandomTroll Wrote: (12-06-2011 07:26 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote: School sets people up to fail, and then punishes them for failing.
Yea, probably, but the thing that I don't get is why we get punished for simplest mistakes? Why?
Because the system that schools use nowadays wasn't intended to help people learn in the first place.
Yup. Luiz if you look on the internet for your history lessons you will find that what really happened is 90-100% different to what schools teach you. Also google
John Dewey
Horace Mann
John Taylor Gatto, and if you have time, read his books.
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RE: School and failure.
(12-06-2011 11:07 AM)gore goroth Wrote: (12-06-2011 08:07 AM)Liquid Wrote: (12-06-2011 07:30 AM)RandomTroll Wrote: (12-06-2011 07:26 AM)StadiumArcadium Wrote: School sets people up to fail, and then punishes them for failing.
Yea, probably, but the thing that I don't get is why we get punished for simplest mistakes? Why?
Because the system that schools use nowadays wasn't intended to help people learn in the first place.
Yup. Luiz if you look on the internet for your history lessons you will find that what really happened is 90-100% different to what schools teach you. Also google
John Dewey
Horace Mann
John Taylor Gatto, and if you have time, read his books.
Enjoy your red pill, Neo.
FINALLY! SOMEONE WHO CALLED ME LUIZ! THAT'S MY FUCKIN REAL NAME! NOT LUIZÃO!
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RE: School and failure.
(12-06-2011 07:30 AM)RandomTroll Wrote: Yea, probably, but the thing that I don't get is why we get punished for simplest mistakes? Why?
It's done to erode the student's self-esteem, and also to invoke fear and guilt.
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School and failure.
While this is a zombie raised from the dead...
How I handle failure: "Shit...Oh well" The End.
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RE: School and failure.
Was going to start bitching about you bunping this, but the OPs post is great.
The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
-Immortal Technique, The Martyr, The Martyr
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School and failure.
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(06-14-2013 08:02 AM)Potato Wrote: watch the fuq out, we've got an "intellectual" over here.
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RE: School and failure.
(09-18-2013 02:02 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote: While this is a zombie raised from the dead...
How I handle failure: "Shit...Oh well" The End.
Very good!
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