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To me, words only have the power you give them. Though I do get enjoyment out of it when little kids curse because to me it is a display of independence and defiance. Everyone tells them cursing is bad but they do it anyway.
Recently I was eating with friends/cousins and a restaurant. I said "fuck" for some reason and a friend said, "watch the language there are kids around!" There was some 12 or 13 year old girl across from our table. This same kid also never uses curses around his 14 year old brother and yells at him for cursing.
I feel giving this un-deserved power to certain words is silly and generally a bad idea.
I tell my little cousins they can curse around me all they want. I let them know there are situations where they may not want to curse. It's funny because they don't even curse that bad. My little cousin is four and she dropped some toy she was playing with and said, "oh shit." Instead of yelling at her for a certain vocalization I asked, "Ishi what happened?" Why should anyone care?
I remember I was playing at school in like 5th grade. I fell and hit my knee really fucking hard and said, "ow that fucking hurt" Instead of asking me what happened a teacher flipped out because I cursed. She can go fuck herself in the ass with a cock made of bitching dick shit. Those curses are for her.
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(This post was last modified: 12-04-2011 03:10 PM by UnschoolShqiponjë.)
Well I swear/curse a bit. But I try and avoid when there's little kids nearby or the kind of crowd that will seem offended. I don't think it's a big deal though, I mean, as long as you don't swear every second word and do it in front of your family (I'm a family man ) then I'm cool with it.
(01-10-2012 02:15 PM)Maelstrom Wrote: Efs, your nihilism is beautiful.
(12-04-2011 06:06 PM)Efs Wrote: do it in front of your family (I'm a family man )
You're a faggot if you're telling me not to curse in front of my family, my family and I curse all the time.
Stuffed up there; well I guess it depends on your family. At my dads I can swear a tiny bit, but at my mums I can't say anything without her telling me off. To me it's just showing respect to them, but as I said every family's different.
EDIT: Plus I like my family so I listen to them...
(01-10-2012 02:15 PM)Maelstrom Wrote: Efs, your nihilism is beautiful.
(This post was last modified: 12-04-2011 06:14 PM by Efs.)
I curse whenever I want to really. I do it in front of my mom and other elders but I know how to control it, which is weird because it just rolls out my mouth.
Legally cursing is not defined as speech because it is largely used to provoke anger rather than communicate, thus no value can be placed upon a curse word, so if your speech is suppressed in, lets say, a school environment, it is legally justifiable as your cursing was no or low value speech
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also, story time, my dad, when he was six told his dad "no goddammit I dont want to", and my grandpa/his dad said "you can say that as much as you like right now, but you are going to regret it so bad later". of course, my dad did not give one fuck and did this until he was about 10 years old
when I turned six my grandpa spent a week teaching me to scream and yell "goddammit" to everything my dad said
(12-04-2011 06:35 PM)Jesusaurisrex Wrote: when I turned six my grandpa spent a week teaching me to scream and yell "goddammit" to everything my dad said
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(01-10-2012 02:15 PM)Maelstrom Wrote: Efs, your nihilism is beautiful.
Tell your friend to grow a pair and that they are just words(told my friend when he told me the same thing).
Reminds me of AmazingAtheists planet wuss video.
(12-04-2011 06:06 PM)Efs Wrote: Well I swear/curse a bit. But I try and avoid when there's little kids nearby or the kind of crowd that will seem offended. I don't think it's a big deal though, I mean, as long as you don't swear every second word and do it in front of your family (I'm a family man ) then I'm cool with it.
My family curses a lot. So that is a non-issue. It is just that some of the family members decide to be the cursing police with the kids. It's annoying as fuck.
I also don't curse a lot. Just occasionally.
I also tell the kids there is a difference between saying, "oh fuck!" and "fuck you!". The latter many more people will take personal offense to and it could get them into trouble even as an adult.
The "bad" words are meant to express anger or intensity, so if you say them all the time, it's weird. And it's totally fucking bizarre how people don't want to say them in front of kids. But somehow it's associated with "low class" people to do it in front of young children, but otherwise it's ok.
I don't care, I would never get onto someone for saying a word like that. What's actually a problem is hateful speech, not "bad" words.
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Quote:My little cousin is four and she dropped some toy she was playing with and said, "oh shit."
Awesome.
I avoid swearing around people who I know don't like swearing, and I avoid swearing around kids just because I know it'll probably piss nearby adults off... but that's the only reason.
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Who decides words are 'bad'? It's idiotic, if you ask me. And I love to curse, the curse words I use have that ring to them, and they roll off the tip of your tongue...I'm fond of curse words in general.
I'll watch my mouth when I'm around like familes and stuff.. I don't see why anybody cares though.
I mean it does get pretty irritating when some wanna-be gansta swears half the time but even then I don't think much of it
IT's infinitely more annoying when I'm around "those" friends who get on my back for every f-bomb I drop
Words and words. They have meanings. Unless it's used against you personally, if you take offense to them you should be sent to one of the many wondrous places that have capital punishment.
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(12-06-2011 07:17 AM)Stadium Wrote: Who decides words are 'bad'? It's idiotic, if you ask me. And I love to curse, the curse words I use have that ring to them, and they roll off the tip of your tongue...I'm fond of curse words in general.
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"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
no time out btw, the actual most effective way is to completely ignore that anything special happened.
I don't really want them to talk that way. I set a terrible example though...
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