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RFID chips are now being used to monitor the attendance and movements of children
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RFID chips are now being used to monitor the attendance and movements of children

Quote:For some reason, I have vivid memories of roll call from elementary school. It was a daily drill that gave each student a chance to rehearse his identity by riffing on the word "here!" Whether you sang it or burped it, you had to make it memorable. Or at least, that's how I felt about it.

But it's a nostalgia I may not share with my kids, as tracking devices have begun to dispose of the ritual all together. Last month, a preschool in Richmond, California installed a curiously expensive, high tech system to track the attendance of its students. And it could serve as a pilot program for others to come.

Upon arriving in the morning, according to the Associated Press, each student at the CCC-George Miller preschool will don a jersey with a stitched in RFID chip. As the kids go about the business of learning, sensors in the school will record their movements, collecting attendance for both classes and meals. Officials from the school have claimed they're only recording information they're required to provide while receiving federal funds for their Headstart program.

However, the story has caught the attention of both the ACLU and the Electronic Frontier Foundation, who have expressed alarm at the potential infringement of privacy rights. Together, they have submitted a letter of concern to school officials, including a request that they clarify what security precautions were put in place with the program.

This is not the first time a school has tried to track its students with RFID. In 2005, according to the AP, another grade school in California handed out RFID badges and was met with an equal amount of outrage from the ACLU and privacy rights watch dogs.

Aside from privacy issues, the project has stirred debate about resource allocation. The RFID system was installed with funds from the Federal stimulus program and carries a price tag of $50,000. Moreover, it was designed to replace a task which, from the outside, seems only minimally taxing to budget and personnel—and which, in my case, served to create lasting memories.

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RE: RFID chips are now being used to monitor the attendance and movements of children

Bwahahaha and people will still send their kids to school. Oh fuck that shit. School is shit and this is shit. It just prepares people to be controlled by big government and government backed corporations.

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RE: RFID chips are now being used to monitor the attendance and movements of children

That's so fucking stupid...shitty oppressive government and schools. Fuck them all, I'd never put an RFID on my child.

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Another step in the chain. While it's a fallacy to claim a slippery slope, I think we're right when we say this isn't going to lead to anything good.

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RE: RFID chips are now being used to monitor the attendance and movements of children

It still baffles me that there are people out there who actually believe all this shit is somehow good. It boggles the mind...

I would rip that damn chip out. Or smash it. Break it somehow. If they give me a new one, oh would you look at that, it broke too, these things must not like me for some reason... Razz

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RE: RFID chips are now being used to monitor the attendance and movements of children

Today it's in the jersey, tomorrow it'll be in the skin...

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Serious. Except then it'll be a lot smaller, so you won't even feel it.

I seriously read stuff saying this would happen, a couple years ago, and went "Hardee Har Har Conspiracy Theorists LOL" and now I'm reading this.... Huh

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(12-01-2011 09:57 PM).Manicrose. Wrote:  Today it's in the jersey, tomorrow it'll be in the skin...

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Serious. Except then it'll be a lot smaller, so you won't even feel it.

I seriously read stuff saying this would happen, a couple years ago, and went "Hardee Har Har Conspiracy Theorists LOL" and now I'm reading this.... Huh

We have a tracking chip in our dog. It is already possible, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one person has done it to their kid.

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The supreme court ought to do something about it sooner or later. Course, with technology being so concealable, we'd likely never know that shit was in us. You know, until I invent that device I've been working on that picks up RFID signals. (I originally started working on it for shoplifting and shit when I was younger, but this seems more important lol.) It'll be a pain to pick up the ones that only give off bursts every once in a while, or when the gubmint transmits to it though.

The ones that are constantly giving a signal are easy.

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(12-01-2011 09:57 PM).Manicrose. Wrote:  I seriously read stuff saying this would happen, a couple years ago, and went "Hardee Har Har Conspiracy Theorists LOL" and now I'm reading this.... Huh

Yep seems the theorists were right about alot of things..
Like the cameras in airports that scan your face to see if you match a criminal database or the cameras that scan car license plates and keep track of where you been or where your going.
Heck even that internet kill switch.

Absent: seriously?
Sounds like a good invention but watch out for the gubmint.

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(12-02-2011 12:12 AM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  The supreme court ought to do something about it sooner or later. Course, with technology being so concealable, we'd likely never know that shit was in us. You know, until I invent that device I've been working on that picks up RFID signals. (I originally started working on it for shoplifting and shit when I was younger, but this seems more important lol.) It'll be a pain to pick up the ones that only give off bursts every once in a while, or when the gubmint transmits to it though.

The ones that are constantly giving a signal are easy.

How does that work? Can I have one???

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HoS there is an internet kill switch? wtf?

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(12-02-2011 07:45 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  HoS there is an internet kill switch? wtf?

http://www.fastcompany.com/1721753/egypt...ill-switch

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376905,00.asp

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01...gislation/

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(12-02-2011 07:45 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  HoS there is an internet kill switch? wtf?

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(12-02-2011 07:56 AM)HeartofShadows Wrote:  
(12-02-2011 07:45 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  HoS there is an internet kill switch? wtf?

http://www.fastcompany.com/1721753/egypt...ill-switch

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376905,00.asp

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01...gislation/

So you couldn't use TOR to bypass this I'm guessing if one has service based in America like Comcast or Verizon.

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(12-02-2011 08:01 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  So you couldn't use TOR to bypass this I'm guessing if one has service based in America like Comcast or Verizon.

Not really sure..

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While I hate giving schools any more power than they already have I gotta admit this is pretty awesome.

I mean imagine, no more checking in or out of anywhere. It'll be automated
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(12-02-2011 10:25 AM)xydougie Wrote:  While I hate giving schools any more power than they already have I gotta admit this is pretty awesome.

I mean imagine, no more checking in or out of anywhere. It'll be automated
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(12-02-2011 11:58 AM)gore goroth Wrote:  
(12-02-2011 10:25 AM)xydougie Wrote:  While I hate giving schools any more power than they already have I gotta admit this is pretty awesome.

I mean imagine, no more checking in or out of anywhere. It'll be automated
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I haven't gotten it working yet. I think I'm going to have to get my hands on a simplified ham radio, and learn a shit-load more about frequencies before it works...

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Another item to add on the list of the complete failure of technology.

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I wish no harm on anyone, but those whose harmful ways will not stop without the same harm.

It's time we kill this cancerous system, before it kills us and everything left of gaia. Rise from our immaturity and take back our autonomy!

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WITHOUT TECHNOLOGY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ELECTRIC GUITARS NOR YOUR LITTLE PUNK

but fine.
Can you just accept technology is power which can be used to harm or entertain or for good causes?

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(12-03-2011 09:57 AM)Lunatic Wrote:  WITHOUT TECHNOLOGY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ELECTRIC GUITARS NOR YOUR LITTLE PUNK

but fine.
Can you just accept technology is power which can be used to harm or entertain or for good causes?

I love how some people are completely anti-technology, yet they use technology pretty much every single fucking day without realizing it. To them technology is just something with a screen like a TV or mobile phone.

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