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How Will the Universe End?
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How Will the Universe End?

I personally believe that there is not enough evidence to suggest the universe will end. I believe it will just keep on going forever. The universe is really too mysterious to know what direction it could go in.
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RE: How Will the Universe End?

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

To be able to answer this question we would really have to know what's beyond the universe. They say our universe is constantly expanding...are there more universes beyond ours? If there are, maybe one day we will crash into them. But it is really interesting to think about things like this...what happens once you go past the edge of the universe?

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

Maybe it'd be something like heat death or that dark energy expansion thing that'd destroy everything, though they're pretty much just hypotheses.

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

If the universe is all. And the universe ends. That means all ends. So how can all end? Can the universe even kill itself? Are there multiple universes?

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

I love this topic.

I think a more fundamental question is asking, how did the universe begin? (or was it always here?). I think it's hard for a human head to grasp the concept of something always existing, it must have started somewhere right? By using the law of conservation, we could say it has always existed because if you had zero energy you cannot convert any energy. But (or so I've heard) modern day physics is coming closer to finding an answer to 'something can come from nothing'. Honestly, I think in both cases the universe could never be destroyed and there will never be nothing because energy can't be destroyed.

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

This is quite a mindfuck isn't it? Razz

We haven't even figured out where it came from yet, so I don't think we can possibly guess how/when/if it will end.

We're like ants trying to figure out what country they're in... we're too small to see the big picture. For all we know, the universe will turn out to be just one tiny little dot in something far far bigger. And then once we've figured that out, it turns out that's a small part of something even bigger as well...

But then what are all those bigger things and where did THEY come from?!?! Goingcrazy

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

Either the Big Rip (where dark energy destabilizes and tears the universe apart) or constant expansion until the planets get further and further away from each other and there's nothing but darkness. Either way, dark energy doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon, so I'm ruling out the Big Crunch (where dark energy's expansion of the universe reverses).

Although the discovery of all these massive black holes eating up the universe seems to be on the rise, so perhaps the end will come sooner than expected.

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

God will purge the massive steaming pile of shit that we call the universe from his asshole and flush it down the toilet causing an astronomical flood to end everything that we know.

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

Some people suggest that eventually all energy in the universe will burn out. Leaving nothing but black holes that will eventually dissolve as a result of Hawking Radiation. Leaving literally nothing.

I for one think that we have no idea at all what started it all and what will end it. That is even assuming our concept of time is correct. Maybe there is no beginning or end. Who knows?

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Maybe there was never a beggining and there will never be an end. Infinite.

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http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/universe.html

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

Maybe "beginning" and "end", as well as time itself, are purely human concepts and the universe is so big and so far beyond our understanding that it doesn't conform to that silly stuff.

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(12-01-2011 06:29 AM).Manicrose. Wrote:  Maybe "beginning" and "end", as well as time itself, are purely human concepts and the universe is so big and so far beyond our understanding that it doesn't conform to that silly stuff.

This is most likely true. We would probably need to continue evolving to gain such understanding.

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(12-01-2011 06:29 AM).Manicrose. Wrote:  Maybe "beginning" and "end", as well as time itself, are purely human concepts and the universe is so big and so far beyond our understanding that it doesn't conform to that silly stuff.

That's how I view it.

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RE: How Will the Universe End?

Well, the redshift that we observe is not proof that the universe is expanding, because some objects are actually blueshifting. I think the universe is probably already infinite, and its not expanding, its just "there".
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Yep, I don't understand many of the logicians and philosophers of today... Many of them argue that there absolutely had to be a beginning and it's illogical to think that it's always been here. That's fucking bullshit, imo. Also, and this has always been one of my pet peeves, you cannot have multiple universes. The definition of the universe is everything, so if there are multiple "universes" we should probably change the name of "universe" to something else. The word "multiverse" consisting of multiple "universes" is fucking stupid. Fucking english and it's changing meanings.

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(12-01-2011 03:34 PM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  Yep, I don't understand many of the logicians and philosophers of today... Many of them argue that there absolutely had to be a beginning and it's illogical to think that it's always been here. That's fucking bullshit, imo. Also, and this has always been one of my pet peeves, you cannot have multiple universes. The definition of the universe is everything, so if there are multiple "universes" we should probably change the name of "universe" to something else. The word "multiverse" consisting of multiple "universes" is fucking stupid. Fucking english and it's changing meanings.

I know right...how can there be a multiple of everything? Since universe is everything...

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I do believe in the possibility of multiple planes of existence in the universe.

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(12-02-2011 12:06 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  I do believe in the possibility of multiple planes of existence in the universe.

I believe that is not only possible, but probable given what we've seen. Some scientists speculate that inside of every black hole there's another "universe" or plain of existence that has it's own natural laws and shit. Like, everything could be different, and we can't even fathom wtf it'd be like lol.

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(12-02-2011 12:06 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  I do believe in the possibility of multiple planes of existence in the universe.

Me too. What we are living in is not the universe, it's a plane of existence in the universe. The universe is infinite, so that means that there are infinite numbers of different dimensions that we cant even fathom. I think that is how you can explain dreams to a degree.
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RE: How Will the Universe End?

I don't know about the universe, and I can't prove that universe exists and it's not some big illusion or projection. But I definitely believe the world I live in and all the neighbors concerning me will come to an end, and humans are the main cause.

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Quote:Some scientists speculate that inside of every black hole there's another "universe" or plain of existence that has it's own natural laws and shit. Like, everything could be different, and we can't even fathom wtf it'd be like lol.

Quote:Me too. What we are living in is not the universe, it's a plane of existence in the universe. The universe is infinite, so that means that there are infinite numbers of different dimensions that we cant even fathom. I think that is how you can explain dreams to a degree.

I like these kinds of ideas. Really fucks with my brain, but I like that.

Then there's this 'parallel universes' thing that I've seen in a bunch of sci-fi stories lately, and apparently scientists consider that to be quite plausible. How the hell they'd go about figuring that out is completely beyond me, but it's also a pretty interesting concept. So there are infinite copies of me out there all of which who made different choices in my life.

But... here's the weird bit. If everyone made different choices, different people would exist... because maybe your mom actually married someone else, and then you'd be... someone else. lol Cuckoo

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(12-04-2011 02:19 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:Some scientists speculate that inside of every black hole there's another "universe" or plain of existence that has it's own natural laws and shit. Like, everything could be different, and we can't even fathom wtf it'd be like lol.

Quote:Me too. What we are living in is not the universe, it's a plane of existence in the universe. The universe is infinite, so that means that there are infinite numbers of different dimensions that we cant even fathom. I think that is how you can explain dreams to a degree.

I like these kinds of ideas. Really fucks with my brain, but I like that.

Then there's this 'parallel universes' thing that I've seen in a bunch of sci-fi stories lately, and apparently scientists consider that to be quite plausible. How the hell they'd go about figuring that out is completely beyond me, but it's also a pretty interesting concept. So there are infinite copies of me out there all of which who made different choices in my life.

But... here's the weird bit. If everyone made different choices, different people would exist... because maybe your mom actually married someone else, and then you'd be... someone else. lol Cuckoo

There cant really be a parallel universe because the definition of the word universe is everything that exists. There can be different dimensions, different laws of physics, and different realities, but they're all within the same universe. Human technology is definitely not advanced enough to tear the fabric of the universe, but I do believe it is possible.
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RE: How Will the Universe End?

Well, I think the most probable Idea till now is following:

Universe is getting bigger, Black holes also get bigger, at some point black holes exponentially speed up their growing (hence they have a lot more ... strengh?) and at some point whump, Black Holes all collapse into each other giving away a big bang and making the new universe.

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(12-03-2011 10:57 PM)SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:  I don't know about the universe, and I can't prove that universe exists and it's not some big illusion or projection. But I definitely believe the world I live in and all the neighbors concerning me will come to an end, and humans are the main cause.

Disregard the fact the sun will kill us all in due time anyway.

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(12-05-2011 04:17 PM)Elfy Wrote:  
(12-03-2011 10:57 PM)SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:  I don't know about the universe, and I can't prove that universe exists and it's not some big illusion or projection. But I definitely believe the world I live in and all the neighbors concerning me will come to an end, and humans are the main cause.

Disregard the fact the sun will kill us all in due time anyway.

If "we" even exist by then.

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(12-05-2011 04:17 PM)Elfy Wrote:  
(12-03-2011 10:57 PM)SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:  I don't know about the universe, and I can't prove that universe exists and it's not some big illusion or projection. But I definitely believe the world I live in and all the neighbors concerning me will come to an end, and humans are the main cause.

Disregard the fact the sun will kill us all in due time anyway.
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RE: How Will the Universe End?

Check the site Exit Mundi for a ton of possible ways the universe might end, some are quite terrifying.
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