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Do you support immortality? Do you want to live forever? Or lengthen your lifespan? Or at least get the option to live forever? Here's a non-profit organisation dedicated to immortality: http://sens.org/

Personally I would at least want to live longer, probably forever. I don't know what happens after death, I would rather stick to the path I know.
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I wouldn't wanna live forever... unless everyone else was also gonna live forever. Imagine you live forever, but have to keep on experiencing everyone you've gotten to know dying of old age, over and over and over... no thanks.

But if they can live forever too... maybe. Although, what if some kind of accident kills them? Then you have to spend the rest of eternity without them... whereas with a normal lifespan it's just a few more decades. ... maybe you get to join 'em after that. Shrug

Although I suppose you could always kill yourself if you're tired of it.

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I want to live forever. No question.

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"Let us die young, or let us live forever, we don't have the power, but we never say never... Forever young, I want to be forever young. Do you really want to live forever, forever, forever?"

Immortality? I think I prefer the afterlife to being stuck in this sh*thole forever. Although it might be fun seeing the second coming from the earthly perspective.

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After you die, you won't be conscious anymore.

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(11-28-2011 11:08 AM)Prince Rilian Wrote:  After you die, you won't be conscious anymore.

You don't know that for sure, but I would rather not risk it...there's no evidence for an afterlife
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"I intend to live forever. So far so good."

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I need to have immortality, a true immortality, not just age also immortal in the way that I cannot be killed. I need it to complete something massive to make Earth good once more. I guess there is no more need for me to mention this here, since nobody would actually have a partial bit of faith in it.

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I intend to live forever or die trying.

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(11-29-2011 02:21 AM)Prince Rilian Wrote:  I intend to live forever or die trying.

Just curious, do you have any plans or are you going to wait for medical technology to progress?
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No plans except being as healthy as possible, and a plan to plan I guess.

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Hey scientists have been able to slow down aging in mice, maybe they'll find a way for pigs, then humans sometime in the next few years. I'd kinda like to see the 2100's Smile -Assuming I don't get myself killed in an anti-school revolution or anything.

True immortality is impossible though.

(Of course, being a Christian I should point out that the Bible says that Man was originally supposed to live forever, thus the reason people have a deep feeling that death is unnatural and somehow wrong)

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If you lived forever, life would get boring as fuck. Life is already boring as fuck. And after thousands of years time would go by too fast because of everything already in your memory. Also, you'd look like a freak of nature millions of years from now, after everyone else has evolved. What happens once the universe ends?

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(11-29-2011 01:35 PM)StadiumArcadium Wrote:  If you lived forever, life would get boring as fuck. Life is already boring as fuck.

Are you sure? You do realise the infinite possibilities of the future? I'm not sure how your brain would even handle it all, let alone get bored. I don't know what would really happen, whether your brain would forget earlier experiences or just block out new information, I don't think anybody knows that.

But seriously, that's like saying lets not find a cure for cancer because it would be boring.
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(11-29-2011 01:35 PM)StadiumArcadium Wrote:  If you lived forever, life would get boring as fuck. Life is already boring as fuck. And after thousands of years time would go by too fast because of everything already in your memory. Also, you'd look like a freak of nature millions of years from now, after everyone else has evolved. What happens once the universe ends?

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(11-29-2011 09:57 PM).Manicrose. Wrote:  
(11-29-2011 01:35 PM)StadiumArcadium Wrote:  If you lived forever, life would get boring as fuck. Life is already boring as fuck. And after thousands of years time would go by too fast because of everything already in your memory. Also, you'd look like a freak of nature millions of years from now, after everyone else has evolved. What happens once the universe ends?

I see you read the article

Indeed I did.

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Thenderf00t Wrote:Eternal life isn't a gift, but arguably the most horrific tortures that can be laid on a sentient being. I mean, sure, the first million years might be fun, but what about the next million and the billion after that and the trillion after that and you would still have an eternity left. This is never going to end; there will never be an end in sight. Eternal life is nearly the poorly thought out fiction of mortals that gotten greedy. Eternal life would be a curse. Without death, there is no reason to do things. Eternal life would rob you of purpose. And this is how things would remain for an eternity and an eternity after that and an eternity after that. I strongly urge you to accept your mortality. Do not let your fear of your inevitable death make you waste your mortal life pursuing phantasms and illusions. Look at yourself in the mirror. For billions of years, those particle, which are currently looking back at your circulatory place in the universe, but for a brief moment they have coalesced in you. Rejoice in the impressive instant until they dissipate whence they came. Delight that your a spark of life in the universe. Life is so much more vibrant and vivid without bronze age paranoid superstitions that cloud and contract the mind with some empty and undesirable promise that sparks can burn forever. Our time is finite. This gives our lives meaning. This gives our lives purpose. This gives our lives urgency. Live life today; savor it."

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Well I think that living forever would be more easy today then say 200 years ago. If you could manage to live forever you might be able to entertain yourself, With all this media man kind has made there is a surplus of things to do. Maybe close to infinite.

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They predict it will be possible in the next 20 years. Through progression in the field of prospthetics, it will just be a case of replacing the weak limbs and organs with artificial replacements. They said that someone could run for an entire 15 minutes without taking a breath and other crazy stuff. I bet we won't get that kind of treatment though. Unless it's done on a mass scale, only those with fame and money are going to get it... time to earn money.

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What about the brain?... wouldn't it eventually deteriorate and just die or function really badly?...

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(11-30-2011 09:05 AM)Derchin Wrote:  
Thenderf00t Wrote:Eternal life isn't a gift, but arguably the most horrific tortures that can be laid on a sentient being. I mean, sure, the first million years might be fun, but what about the next million and the billion after that and the trillion after that and you would still have an eternity left. This is never going to end; there will never be an end in sight. Eternal life is nearly the poorly thought out fiction of mortals that gotten greedy. Eternal life would be a curse. Without death, there is no reason to do things. Eternal life would rob you of purpose. And this is how things would remain for an eternity and an eternity after that and an eternity after that. I strongly urge you to accept your mortality. Do not let your fear of your inevitable death make you waste your mortal life pursuing phantasms and illusions. Look at yourself in the mirror. For billions of years, those particle, which are currently looking back at your circulatory place in the universe, but for a brief moment they have coalesced in you. Rejoice in the impressive instant until they dissipate whence they came. Delight that your a spark of life in the universe. Life is so much more vibrant and vivid without bronze age paranoid superstitions that cloud and contract the mind with some empty and undesirable promise that sparks can burn forever. Our time is finite. This gives our lives meaning. This gives our lives purpose. This gives our lives urgency. Live life today; savor it."

I see 2 points he made here, that it would be boring and that immortality would kill your motivation.

However he has no evidence whatsoever that it will be boring, and he has no evidence whatsoever that it will kill your motivation to do things. These arguments are knee-jerk reactions.

(11-30-2011 04:25 PM)Lunatic Wrote:  What about the brain?... wouldn't it eventually deteriorate and just die or function really badly?...

No because ideally immortality will include ongoing repair of the brain, just like the rest of the body.
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Nanobots / downloading yourself into a computer is where it's at. Get shot in the arm? No bit deal, the nanobots will have it repaired in a matter of minutes. Tumor? Tumor's ain't shit when we have nanobots. Get shot in the face, it's no longer a thing to worry about, just have yourself a new head made and upload yourself to it.

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(12-01-2011 07:06 AM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  Nanobots / downloading yourself into a computer is where it's at. Get shot in the arm? No bit deal, the nanobots will have it repaired in a matter of minutes. Tumor? Tumor's ain't shit when we have nanobots. Get shot in the face, it's no longer a thing to worry about, just have yourself a new head made and upload yourself to it.

Fuck yeah.

Then some terrorist organization will learn how to remotely control the nanobots so the government will require they get control of them *just in case* of a terrorist infiltration. 2984?

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Yes, but I'm quite well up in my computer science. I'll be the cyber terrorist controlling everyone. Trololol

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(11-30-2011 04:25 PM)Lunatic Wrote:  What about the brain?... wouldn't it eventually deteriorate and just die or function really badly?...
Assuming it was still a normal brain and its capacity wasn't increased by 1000%, you would eventually notice time speeding up faster and faster until a year seemed like a day, because you've probably noticed that the older you get the faster time passes because each month makes up a smaller percentage of the time you've already lived. Or something. Like if you're one month old, that month is the WORLD to you. You don't know anything else. It's an immeasurable amount of time. But when you're 600 a month is just a flash in your life.

Also maybe it would run out of capacity, though that seems unlikely since I read somewhere that the brain has a capacity that would last you thousands of years of life.

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(11-30-2011 04:25 PM)Lunatic Wrote:  What about the brain?... wouldn't it eventually deteriorate and just die or function really badly?...
Assuming it was still a normal brain and its capacity wasn't increased by 1000%, you would eventually notice time speeding up faster and faster until a year seemed like a day, because you've probably noticed that the older you get the faster time passes because each month makes up a smaller percentage of the time you've already lived. Or something. Like if you're one month old, that month is the WORLD to you. You don't know anything else. It's an immeasurable amount of time. But when you're 600 a month is just a flash in your life.

Also maybe it would run out of capacity, though that seems unlikely since I read somewhere that the brain has a capacity that would last you thousands of years of life.

That's just one's perception. Time doesn't actually speed up. Often kids live in the moment, adults are constantly looking to a future event. Time just feels as it always has to me.

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The only bad side to immortality that I can envision is if the future does turn out incredibly bleak and apocalyptic and there's no release in sight.

But yeah, there's that thing with "immortal but not invincible", so you could probably off yourself.

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Quote:That's just one's perception. Time doesn't actually speed up.
Perception is everything, since time is fluid and it can be argued that it doesn't actually exist.

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I think time almost certainly exists. Time, imo, is the thing between point A. and point B. Like if I hit a stick against my wall, wait, then do it again, the period in which I waited is what time is. The word "time" is just how we define waiting. Although, scientists kind of raped my whole theory on time when they started changing shit up with astronauts moving through time faster than we do, and flying two planes around the planet with clocks on them that are synchronized, then the clocks being off when the planes landed. Shit's fucking weird.

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