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Positivity is not Denial
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Positivity is not Denial

No, I'm not happy nor positive all the time nor am I advocating it. Yes, I have my bouts of depression and frustration (Like right now), but this topic was nagging at me for the past couple of weeks.

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11-24-2011 01:41 PM
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RE: Positivity is not Denial

So basically being positive is not being in denial?

Depends. Being realistic trumps being positive or negative.

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RE: Positivity is not Denial

I like realism, actual realism, not optimism or delusion or whatever, just actual rational thinking.

Eg Me and a friend were making a banner the other day. This friend is overly optimistic. I told him we needed more medium size paintbrushes, because we had 1, and that meant only 1 person can work at a time, defeating the purpose of having 2 people. However, he responded with "doesn't matter".

Then the brush broke, and we ended up painting the thing with huge paintbrushes and a piece of stick, therefore fucking up the whole thing. Simply having 1 extra/spare brush would've saved the banner. I also told him we needed to be careful with spilling paint, he resonded with "it doesn't matter, we'll paint over it", the banner ended up being a massive clusterfuck.

I try to be optimistic in the long term, but if you're doing something you gota be realistic about it. Man didn't go to the Moon by being delusionally optimistic, they were realistic about all the problems involved.
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RE: Positivity is not Denial

Being positive can motivate you through the realism.

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11-24-2011 05:14 PM
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RE: Positivity is not Denial

(11-24-2011 05:14 PM)Elfy Wrote:  Being positive can motivate you through the realism.

Pretty much this.

Say you're standing in a pile of shit. You can pretend you're not, but that wouldn't really solve it. Instead, acknowledge the reality of the situation but realize that you can step out of the shit and go clean yourself off... it's not like you're stuck there forever.

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