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Technocracy/Constitutional Fascism
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Technocracy/Constitutional Fascism

Over the past few months having to endure a sociology class with a raging liberal hippy and a political science class with an extreme(ly retarded) neocon for political science I have come to to the following conclusion and have finally set a permanent politcial ideolgy for myself.

Very few people on the Internet understand Fascism I've noticed. Fascism isn't about violating personal liberty. Its about creating a solid culture proud of itself. for example If a nation commits war crimes and the people are angered by it can no longer be called fascism. You see Nationalistic support is crucial in Fascism. The government isn't against humanity, its purpose is the preservation of tradition and humans can be dangerous to this and gnaw away at the very culture of society which can be very detrimental to social progress, public health and spiritual attainment. The government is the pot for the social fabric and the people have the right to be proud of it.


There has to be a (in this idealogy Scientific) dictator as well for efficiency and swiftness not to mention free of hypocrasy. Democracy is wasteful and just makes people power thirsty and likely to throw away national wealth on Campaigning and distracts the populace from important issues like the advancement of technology. Technocratic Fascism would be ideal because Instead of having people fight their fellow Nationalists for power like in democracy we should have a steady government allowing the rest of us the freedom to work on Bureaucracy, Science, and Engineering for the purpose of innovative advancement and the accumulation of Cultural wealth and prestige. It will be plenty better than sitting through shallow speeches wishing badly you were attending a spiritless opera for the petty novelty that there it would be sung.

Fascism is inherently opposed to Corporatism because Companies that move offshore are parasitic in essence selling out and betraying their hosting Nation while depriving it from resources which will happen when Nationalism is weak. If companies were owned by the Government then they would serve the people who created it.

I support the Dicatorship of the Scientist. Technocratic fascism is the best Government type.

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Re: Technocracy & Constitutional Fascism

I disagree on democracy. Direct democracy can be beneficial in running a society. However I believe there are two major reasons democracy in general does not work as intended the way it is implemented today.

1. Centralization-Centralization of power ensures that power flows from top to bottom. if the majority wants something and a select centralized body has authority to carry out the wishes of the majority, this can easily be abused. This centralized body can simply expand its own power and degenerate into what's often called representative democracy. This essentially leads to the second reason

2. Misuse-the system of democracy only seems to be truly effective in small-scale settings. It is a system meant to work best in a decentralized setting being misused in a centralized manner. You can't take a system proven to work best in one setting and expect it to perform just as well if not better in a setting opposite of what the system was intended for.

However if you could please elaborate on this Technocratic Fascism you speak of I can better form an opinion on that.

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I don't care how good a person or system seems. Once you appoint one person dictator, that's just asking for disaster.

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The Desert Fox Wrote:I don't care how good a person or system seems. Once you appoint one person dictator, that's just asking for disaster.

he has a point, even the best dictator killed himself and was framed for the holocaust :(

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Jesusaurisrex Wrote:
The Desert Fox Wrote:I don't care how good a person or system seems. Once you appoint one person dictator, that's just asking for disaster.

he has a point, even the best dictator killed himself and was framed for the holocaust :(

AS LONG AS THERE ARE JEWS OUT THERE, YOUR GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER TREAT YOU FAIRLY

Hitler wasn't fit to be a Dictator, he was a painter and aspiring architect. Running messeges to the front lines isn't the making of a good dictator.

Technocracy in definition refers to drawing leaders from the pool of Mathematicians, Engineers and Scientists because Free market by itself stagnates in innovation. The good thing about Capitalism is that since it inspires competition people will naturally produce technological advancement to outwit the rest. However since it turns to Corporatism the best choice would be to have a free market bolstered with a Scientist or Engineer as a dictator to ensure the Nation's cultural values don't remain financially poor nor the people uneducated which is an inherit trend in Socialism.


Living in a dirt poor Communistic Liberal society without privacy in the form of private property marketing full freedom for every individual is a worse slavery than living in a prestigious Nation that offers you wealth, a home but asks for your participation.

The constitutional bit stems from my belief that the individual has the choice via access to information which nation he wants to feel pride for. South Korea and China's form of censoring information is not to be tolerated as it steps into the realm of the individual and trys to force a decision for him. You cannot interfere with love neither is it possible to interfere with National pride.

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~Mystery~ Wrote:South Korea and China's form of censoring information is not to be tolerated as it steps into the realm of the individual and trys to force a decision for him
I believe you mean Best Korea.

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If Mystery is coming out as a fascist, can I pleeeeease stop treating him like a troll and just declare war on him?

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Bush and Obama may be shits but they shouldn't be considered Fascists because their approval ratings are terrible which means they have self destructed in their attempt to raise domestic national support. Incompetence on their part won't likely go unpunished with the increasing culture of anarchists and radical conservatives. If thats the order of things I will accept it.

And thus your enemy is still my enemy for as long as America continues to suppress social progress and innovation.

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Man if this revolution thing got pulled off it would be interesting to see all the groups split off and fight each other for control.

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Technocracy is bestnocracy
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I'm unconvinced. I'm still all for Anarchy. As long as there are leaders, there will be oppression. And so what if we don't develop into autonomous communities? I seek only self-liberation. However, cooperation would be a good idea, and I'll support that.

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Technocracy yo

Oh wait that actually exists. Fucking lolwut.

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I prefer meritocracy Smile
Edit: and by this I mean "the better you are, the better your place" not "the more time you spend at school..."

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~Mystery~ Wrote:finally set a permanent politcial ideolgy for myself.

makes you narrow minded and also you've made the assumption that there is a perfect ideology out there. Sounds like a cult
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psychopath Wrote:
~Mystery~ Wrote:finally set a permanent politcial ideolgy for myself.

makes you narrow minded and also you've made the assumption that there is a perfect ideology out there. Sounds like a cult

I can't argue with the perfect spirals and crystal shaped forms of the universe.

Ernst Haeckel (Biologist and artist) is a good example
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I'm glad were all sheep, it means pretty much all humans can all learn to drive a car pretty impressively and create the harmony of living as part of a larger societal organism.

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Indeed
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~Mystery~ Wrote:
psychopath Wrote:
~Mystery~ Wrote:finally set a permanent politcial ideolgy for myself.

makes you narrow minded and also you've made the assumption that there is a perfect ideology out there. Sounds like a cult

I can't argue with the perfect spirals and crystal shaped forms of the universe.

Ernst Haeckel (Biologist and artist) is a good example
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I'm glad were all sheep, it means pretty much all humans can all learn to drive a car pretty impressively and create the harmony of living as part of a larger societal organism.

Psyc why?? do you keep quoting my post?

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~Mystery~ Wrote:Psyc why?? do you keep quoting my post?
Because MYSTERY HAS WISDOM OF THE UNIVERSE

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