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Let's make our own country! Constitutional Convention Time!

Constitutional Convention Experiment

4 voting delegate spots currently vacant.

Weswammy here. Today we convene to write the Constitution of School-Survival-opia-land. First order of business, we've got ten slots for voting delegates, and one non-voting slot. First come first serve, and you have to have at least been here two months. I'll be the tie breaker vote if there's a disagreement. Also, we need somebody to fill the role of Calligrapher. The Calligrapher will take the proposals we vote yes on and put it into a the form of a Constitution. The Calligrapher doesn't have a vote. If nobody wants to be the Calligrapher, I'll take the job on top of being the Persident.

Ground rules: I am the moderator. I will go by the title of President of the Convention. As moderator, I decide when things happen and stuff. I basically keep things organized, and I promise I will try not to be a control freak.

There will be three stages to the making of the Constitution. The first stage will be deciding the nuts and bolts of how the system will work. We'll call this the Organization Stage. The next stage will be deciding what rights and responsibilities people have under the system. This will be the Rights Stage. The last stage will be us voting on what principles we want espoused in the Preamble, this will be the Preamble Stage. I will propose when to go onto the next stage, and it will take a simple majority to vote on my proposal to go on.

After each stage the Calligrapher will write out that portion of the Constitution as a draft and we will vote on if it is sufficient or not. If the Calligrapher's draft is voted down, it is expected those that voted against it will give feedback on why it was inadequate. Then we will vote on it again. Please refrain from voting against a draft because you don't agree with the proposals in it. Vote against the draft if it has bad grammar/spelling, poor formatting, or doesn't accurately incorporate the proposals that are supposed to be in it into it.

Each member here, including the President and the non-voting Calligrapher, can propose something to be added to the Constitution. A simple majority vote will either incorporate it into the Constitution or shoot it down. Please give your proposal a unique name. If there is a tie, the President (that's me!) will break it.

A proposal will look something like this:
Generic Name Wrote:Best Plan
There will be a unicameral legislative body called the Senate elected by the legislatures of the respective states. Each state will have two Senators. The Senators will have a term of seven years. Yada yada yada.

A vote will look something like this:
P.N. Guin Wrote:Best Plan: No

The nation of School-Survival-opia-land is composed of five regions with varying populations:
Mylifesucksland: 1 million
Lolololand: 1.5 million
New Philadelphia: 300,000
Old Philadelphia: 600,000
Spamville: 2 million

Delegate List:
a. President Weswammy
b. Caligrapher jnkbortka
1. jnkbortka
2. Comrade
3. Phrozen_Soul
4. John Tuttle
5. maxh
6. VACANT
7. VACANT
8. VACANT
9. VACANT
10. Thought Criminal

EDIT: Useful resources.
The Fundamental Orders of Connecticut
Constitution of the United States w/o Amendments
U.S. Constitutional Amendments
Constitution of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, 1924
Constitution of Japan, 1946
Constitution of the Fifth Republic (France, 1958)
Hong Kong Basic Law

Also, I reserve the right to refuse applicants to be delegates if I think they are retards/will troll. Don't worry hatemylife, that doesn't mean you.

IMPORTANT NOTICE: THIS IS AN EXPERIMENT. I AM SORRY I HAVE NOT MADE THAT CLEAR. HOWEVER, WE WILL HOPEFULLY PRODUCE A CONSTITUTION THAT COULD BE USED IN REAL LIFE IF WE WANTED TO, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS MERELY ACADEMIC.

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I'll be one Biggrin

I'm a libertarian

I support the current bill of rights
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jnkbortka Wrote:I'll be one Biggrin

I'm a libertarian

I support the current bill of rights
You're in tentatively. Just be sure to actually get on. You only have 5 posts. I reserve the right to kick you out and get someone else if you are very inactive, okay?

And I really don't care what ideology you are at the current moment. Good, you're libertarian. So am I. I like that, but I want disparate opinions so that we can have a clash of ideas that produces the best Constitution possible.

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Me. When will the corporations send me money?
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Comrade Wrote:Me. When will the corporations send me money?
Accepted.

I don't think the the corporations are going to send you money. We're doing this as a thought experiment. I want to see if we actually come up with something half-way decent.

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Weswammy Wrote:Weswammy here. Today we convene to write the Constitution of School-Survival-opia-land. First order of business, we've got ten slots for voting delegates, and one non-voting slot. First come first serve, and you have to have at least been here two months. I'll be the tie breaker vote if there's a disagreement. Also, we need somebody to fill the role of Calligrapher. The Calligrapher will take the proposals we vote yes on and put it into a the form of a Constitution. The Calligrapher doesn't have a vote. If nobody wants to be the Calligrapher, I'll take the job on top of being the Persident.

Ground rules: I am the moderator. I will go by the title of President of the Convention. As moderator, I decide when things happen and stuff. I basically keep things organized, and I promise I will try not to be a control freak.

There will be three stages to the making of the Constitution. The first stage will be deciding the nuts and bolts of how the system will work. We'll call this the Organization Stage. The next stage will be deciding what rights and responsibilities people have under the system. This will be the Rights Stage. The last stage will be us voting on what principles we want espoused in the Preamble, this will be the Preamble Stage. I will propose when to go onto the next stage, and it will take a simple majority to vote on my proposal to go on.

After each stage the Calligrapher will write out that portion of the Constitution as a draft and we will vote on if it is sufficient or not. If the Calligrapher's draft is voted down, it is expected those that voted against it will give feedback on why it was inadequate. Then we will vote on it again. Please refrain from voting against a draft because you don't agree with the proposals in it. Vote against the draft if it has bad grammar/spelling, poor formatting, or doesn't accurately incorporate the proposals that are supposed to be in it into it.

Each member here, including the President and the non-voting Calligrapher, can propose something to be added to the Constitution. A simple majority vote will either incorporate it into the Constitution or shoot it down. Please give your proposal a unique name. If there is a tie, the President (that's me!) will break it.

A proposal will look something like this:
Generic Name Wrote:Best Plan
There will be a unicameral legislative body called the Senate elected by the legislatures of the respective states. Each state will have two Senators. The Senators will have a term of seven years. Yada yada yada.

A vote will look something like this:
P.N. Guin Wrote:Best Plan: No

Delegate List:
a. President Weswammy
b. Caligrapher VACANT
1. jnkbortka
2. Comrade
3. VACANT
4. VACANT
5. VACANT
6. VACANT
7. VACANT
8. VACANT
9. VACANT
10. VACANT

EDIT: Useful resources.
The Fundamental Orders of Connecticut
Constitution of the United States w/o Amendments
U.S. Constitutional Amendments
Constitution of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, 1924
Constitution of Japan, 1946

Also, I reserve the right to refuse applicants to be delegates if I think they are retards/will troll. Don't worry hatemylife, that doesn't mean you.
Technically, you were never voted as president so it's an autocracy masquerading as democracy (or whatever government/economic subsystem that appears to be free where you have all the power)

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..and if it's not, does that mean you could be impeached if we get enough voters to vote you out? :troll:

But it will be interesting seeing how this plays out.

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Sociopath Wrote:Technically, you were never voted as president so it's an autocracy masquerading as democracy (or whatever government/economic subsystem that appears to be free where you have all the power)
I prefer the term benevolent dictatorship.

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..and if it's not, does that mean you could be impeached if we get enough voters to vote you out? :troll:

But it will be interesting seeing how this plays out.
So are you in or not?

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Weswammy Wrote:
Sociopath Wrote:Technically, you were never voted as president so it's an autocracy masquerading as democracy (or whatever government/economic subsystem that appears to be free where you have all the power)
I prefer the term benevolent dictatorship.

Quote::troll:

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..and if it's not, does that mean you could be impeached if we get enough voters to vote you out? :troll:

But it will be interesting seeing how this plays out.
So are you in or not?
No thanks; I'm a Revolutionary, not a politician. It would seem hypocritical of an Anarchist to conform to a system in order to change it from the inside.

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Not like any of this matters anyway, considering Soulriser holds final word on the site and everything that goes on in it.

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Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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Sociopath Wrote:Not like any of this matters anyway, considering Soulriser holds final word on the site and everything that goes on in it.
This is more of an experiment to see what happens. I highly doubt it would be adopted as a way to govern the site.

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I'll be one.

"Ask them no more questions, never hear them lying"

People say the problem with me is I have psychotic tendencies and care not about other human beings I don't like and or know. So?
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Phrozen_Soul Wrote:I'll be one.
Accepted.

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I require 2 votes.
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Comrade Wrote:I require 2 votes.
How about I meet you in the middle and give you one?

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As a man interested in civic duty I shall offer my services to the Convention as a delegate.

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John Tuttle Wrote:As a man interested in civic duty I shall offer my services to the Convention as a delegate.
Accepted.

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Weswammy Wrote:
Comrade Wrote:I require 2 votes.
How about I meet you in the middle and give you one?
in that case i want 6 votes
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Comrade Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:
Comrade Wrote:I require 2 votes.
How about I meet you in the middle and give you one?
in that case i want 6 votes
I'm starting to feel like the bald guy from Pawn Stars.

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better call your buddy whos an expert on votes and have him come take a look at it.
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Comrade Wrote:better call your buddy whos an expert on votes and have him come take a look at it.
I just don't know if there's a market for them. This is Las Vegas, not Washington, after all.

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Comrade Wrote:better call your buddy whos an expert on votes and have him come take a look at it.

I'm pretty sure half of the experts on tv shows just pull random numbers out of their asses. As in their number generating donkeys.

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Wes I'll just watch as I'm not leader material.
Just a right hand man of sorts but good luck with this(seems interesting).

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HeartofShadows Wrote:Wes I'll just watch as I'm not leader material.
Just a right hand man of sorts but good luck with this(seems interesting).
C'mon, this isn't about leadership. It's about ideas and compromise.

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Weswammy Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:Wes I'll just watch as I'm not leader material.
Just a right hand man of sorts but good luck with this(seems interesting).
C'mon, this isn't about leadership. It's about ideas and compromise.

I'll just watch and see how it goes then.

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HeartofShadows Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:Wes I'll just watch as I'm not leader material.
Just a right hand man of sorts but good luck with this(seems interesting).
C'mon, this isn't about leadership. It's about ideas and compromise.
What can I say, thanks and I hope it goes well for me. And by I hope it goes well I mean I hope I can get enough people.

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Weswammy Wrote:What can I say, thanks and I hope it goes well for me. And by I hope it goes well I mean I hope I can get enough people.
Im offering to take up 6 spots.
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Comrade Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:What can I say, thanks and I hope it goes well for me. And by I hope it goes well I mean I hope I can get enough people.
Im offering to take up 6 spots.
Are you as big as six people?

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Weswammy Wrote:
Comrade Wrote:
Weswammy Wrote:What can I say, thanks and I hope it goes well for me. And by I hope it goes well I mean I hope I can get enough people.
Im offering to take up 6 spots.
Are you as big as six people?
downstairs A HA!
but i dont think your going to get enough participants so might wanna narrow is down to 5
08-04-2011 08:43 AM
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Re: Let's make our own country! Constitutional Convention Time!

I demand the "Commander of all things military and badass" position.

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(11-27-2011 10:52 AM)Efs Wrote:  Our Army is more professional than Amerika. Smile
Except ours isn't allowed to have guns
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Re: Let's make our own country! Constitutional Convention Time!

if no one takes it i'll be caligrapher
08-04-2011 11:19 AM
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