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48/2(9+3)
Clearly marking the morons since 1992.
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
288...
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
Come on even n.a. knows this one. Up the difficulty a bit AWOL.
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(10-14-2011 08:19 PM)|55555| Wrote: Come on even n.a. knows this one. Up the difficulty a bit AWOL.
You'd be goddamn surprised.
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
FUCK
I FUCKED IT UP I THINK
FUCK YOUR ORDER OF OPERATIONS
I JUST DO SHIT
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
It's two. Order of operations. PEMDAS: Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction. Fuck, did you learn nothing in Pre-Algebra? 7th/8th grade math you guys....
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
Remember it as:
Please
Excuse
My
Dear
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“Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. ”- Albert Einstein
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(10-15-2011 12:07 AM)cp Wrote: Remember it as:
Please
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My
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That's why people fuck up.
It's not:
P/B
E/O/I
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It's:
P/B
E/O/I
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
48/2(9+3)
48/2(12)
48/24
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
It's:
48/2(9+3)
48/2(12)
24(12)
288
Am I right? Or are my teachers teaching me wrong? Seriously, I'm taking Algebra 1 for the 3rd time this year! And that's only because i didn't have enough credits!
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The way it's typed there is not enough information. If you're looking in a math book, the fraction bar would be horizonal and how far it extended would tell you what's part of the denominator and what's not.
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
its 2
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Even though it's ambiguous, I'm inclinded to say it's 2, because if the multiplication weren't meant to go first, I'd expect it to read 48/2*(9+3).
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(10-15-2011 03:20 AM)night.artist Wrote: It's:
48/2(9+3)
48/2(12)
24(12)
288
Am I right? Or are my teachers teaching me wrong? Seriously, I'm taking Algebra 1 for the 3rd time this year! And that's only because i didn't have enough credits!
I took Geometry my Freshman year.
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(10-15-2011 04:18 AM)gore goroth Wrote: I took Geometry my Freshman year.
U'r so advanced.
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(10-15-2011 03:20 AM)night.artist Wrote: It's:
48/2(9+3)
48/2(12)
24(12)
288
How the fuck... how did you manage to turn a division problem into multiplication?
Bitch you best be trolling
Edit: Ok... now I see what you did. You divided 48 by 2 instead of dealing with the (12) first. You broke the first rule of PEMDAS.
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
(10-15-2011 05:19 AM)Ayliana Wrote: (10-15-2011 03:20 AM)night.artist Wrote: It's:
48/2(9+3)
48/2(12)
24(12)
288
How the fuck... how did you manage to turn a division problem into multiplication?
Bitch you best be trolling
Edit: Ok... now I see what you did. You divided 48 by 2 instead of dealing with the (12) first. You broke the first rule of PEMDAS.
The parentheses? Do you mean because the division bar implies parentheses? That's what I was saying, but since the problem is written ambiguously, she didn't really make a *mistake*.
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
Parentheses need to be taken care of before anything else in the problem can be dealt with, even if there is only one integer inside them. In this case the (12) needs to be multiplied by two before any division can occur.
And yes, she made a very big mistake.
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(10-15-2011 05:36 AM)Ayliana Wrote: Parentheses need to be taken care of before anything else in the problem can be dealt with, even if there is only one integer inside them. In this case the (12) needs to be multiplied by two before any division can occur.
Oh, ahahaha! That's wrong. When it says parentheses come first, it means the stuff inside the parentheses. In this problem, that means you add 9 and 3 before you do anything else with them. Then the problem is 48/2*12. The question, though, is does the fraction bar go over the 12 or not? Is it 48/(2*12) or just 48/2*12? As I said before, I think the lack of a multiplication symbol, using only juxtaposition, implies that 2(9+3) is the denominator. It's not the parentheses around 9+3 that affect that.
http://www.mathopolis.com/questions/q.php?id=383
Th fraction bar in this problem represents division but you do the addition in the numerator first. Fraction bars imply parentheses. I'm still looking for an example that shows ayliana's mistake.
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
I looked it up, and found something that says what I said, that multiplication by juxtapostion implies parentheses, is an actual RULE. That's not "doing parentheses first" but practically speaking, ayliana was right, and 288 cannot be an answer to this problem. Yea!
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It depends on what the "/" represents. If it represents a fraction bar, the value is 2, if it represents a simple division sign, it's 288.
I think it looks more like a fraction bar so I chose 2
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(10-15-2011 06:25 AM)sergeant Wrote: It depends on what the "/" represents. If it represents a fraction bar, the value is 2, if it represents a simple division sign, it's 288.
I think it looks more like a fraction bar so I chose 2
It looks like a fraction bar because of the juxtaposition of 2 and (9+3), I think.
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
A division bar is a fraction bar. There is no distinction between the two.
48/24 can read as both "48 % 24" or "48 24ths" And they both equal the same thing: 2
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(10-15-2011 06:37 AM)Ayliana Wrote: A division bar is a fraction bar. There is no distinction between the two.
48/24 can read as both "48 % 24" or "48 24ths" And they both equal the same thing: 2
But what he meant was does it cover only the 2 or does it cover the whole 2(9+3).
What's up with the percent sign? I've only ever seen that in C and it means remainder, not division.
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
>look at question
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(10-15-2011 06:44 AM)Blobthe15 Wrote: Guys, you've been trolled.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/48293#.TpifE94r2so
All this time it's been a fake math problem!? But the numbers look so real!
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(10-15-2011 06:39 AM)Prince Rilian Wrote: What's up with the percent sign? I've only ever seen that in C and it means remainder, not division.
It's the lazy mans way of typing a division sign without using a backslash.
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RE: 48/2(9+3)
Ok it's like this.
48/2(9+3)
Parenthesis first which gives you 48/2(12)
No exponents so skip that. Then it's Multiplication or division. Depends what comes first in the problem. Sinceit's read from left to right division comes first which gives you 24(12) In this case the parenthesis indicate multiplication 24 * 12. And that gives you 288.
There, thats how you do order of ops the RIGHT way. Believe me, I should know. I absolutely LOVE doing problems like this. And I've been taught every year since 7th grade, that's like 4 years. And I always get these right.
So that's that. The answer is 288.
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