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I never say the pledge anymore, just lip sync
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I never say the pledge anymore, just lip sync

My names Alan Sharpe and im 13 years old, not the stupid wannabe gangsters who MOST kids my age are, but anyway, im 13. I started questioning school last year in 6th grade when i forgot to stand for the pledge( talking with other kids) The teacher got all pissed, and talked to me in the hall. She asked me what our flag meant to me, and i gave the standard, "it symbolizes our freedom and our country" yada yada yada. I then had to write a letter to my parents explaining what i did and i had to turn it in the next day with their signature. In hinesight, i think instead of cooperating, i shouldve challenged her and told her i had rights. Since then, ive hated school on a whole new level. And until then i never realized what i was saying when i did the pledge. Glad i found this site.
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RE: I never say the pledge anymore, just lip sync

Si jeni?

Good job with your realization. Forcing the pledge is just indoctrination. It should be a choice not a requirement. As a substitute I have had to real manuals and there is literally a law (in my area at least) mandating that the pledge be said every morning. GRANTED it also states that a student may choose to refuse to say the pledge. Though from my experience teachers never allowed this right. I would then tell the student they DID have the right under the law. That got me in trouble heh

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RE: I never say the pledge anymore, just lip sync

Type in bellamy salute on wikipedia. This was our original flag salute. Notice it looks strangely familiar.

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RE: I never say the pledge anymore, just lip sync

Welcome to SS drizzle.
You're not alone and trust me with a little digging there's alot of proof to suggest the pledge and freedom bullshit they preach to you is garbage.

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Welcome to the SS forums. If people get all pissy at you (which happens a lot) shake it off.

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RE: I never say the pledge anymore, just lip sync

Welcome, Drizzle. Do you turn into Rain later on? Razz

Also, check this out: http://www.school-survival.net/kit/tales...rotest.php
You don't actually need to stand or lip sync at all, they have no legal basis to force you to (but as we all know, that doesn't usually stop them from being intimidating anyway)...

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RE: I never say the pledge anymore, just lip sync

Welcome to ss man. Don't let the assholes scare you off, we got plenty of them don't we Ayliana?

Also, you can't be forced to say the pledge or even stand for it, the supreme court has backed this several times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virgin...._Barnette
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elk_Grove_U..._v._Newdow
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/op...462ord.pdf
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I refused to say the pledge in 6th grade, and my parents supported me. But texas law requires that students stand during it, though they don't have to say it.

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What's pledge, like an anthem or something?

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I don't even lip sync anymore, just kind of stand there, in fact, i don't think anyone says the pledge in my class anymore

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(10-18-2011 05:23 AM)Amortisatie Wrote:  I don't even lip sync anymore, just kind of stand there, in fact, i don't think anyone says the pledge in my class anymore

Amort out of fucking nowhere.

But yeah, same here when I actually come in for first period.

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(10-17-2011 08:20 PM)Efs Wrote:  What's pledge, like an anthem or something?

are you cereal?
it's just a stupid poem everyone recites in unison.

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(10-18-2011 09:39 AM)Prince Rilian Wrote:  
(10-17-2011 08:20 PM)Efs Wrote:  What's pledge, like an anthem or something?

are you cereal?
it's just a stupid poem everyone recites in unison.

What poem?
I blame you Americans for my lack of understanding/ignorance.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Tex...allegiance

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(10-19-2011 01:47 AM)Prince Rilian Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Tex...allegiance

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Lol, I thought most countries has some variation of a pledge/national anthem.

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