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Freak · 03-09-2006 02:30 AM

Ok, I only know the basics of politics (ex. Bush sucks, the governments corrupted, Cheney's a monster, Bush Cheated, then a little more details on the subjects) so I'll probably so something syupid and not real. Well, we're all are/going to be taxpayers rights. So we pay for EVERTHING right? Well why the hell are they making the disicions(sp?) I mean how far are we in debt be cause of Stupid? I know Bush is in favor of rich people and is completely ruining the economy of our country and fucking up the rest of the world(you know doesn't it seem like that the presidents know a days are all more powerful than anyone else inth e world?) So why are we sitting on are asses and let thme scandel money that we payed for on stupid shit like the war in Iraq??? Suspicious

HappyJ · 03-09-2006 05:20 AM

Because America is a Partial Democracy. Most people who say things like this ( I used to until i did some reasearch) don't realize how many decisions that the president ande people who are in politics make every day. Seriously, If the government was a complete democracy, and the people were forced to vote on every single thing that went through the government system, nothing would get done because noone would be able to goto work, people would die from sleep and food deprevation. There are literally hundreds of decisions that are made a day, Now I don’t know about you but I certainly don’t want to be sitting in a voting box for ¾ of my life…

Rebelnerd · 03-09-2006 05:40 AM

it's better that sitting in a multi-billion-dollar deficit hole for ALL of your life...

HappyJ · 03-09-2006 06:26 AM

Well people as a whole are dumb. Do you really want [steryotypical] hillbillies (no offence to anyone) voting on issues that use long words?

I again state this is not meant to offend anyone

Even so, The american people can't handle all of the decions that go through the government every day. Besides, there are things that the government knows and does that the american people don't know about, and its for the better, even if you dont think so, it IS better off. Some of the things that go on behind closed doors should stay behind closed doors, otherwise we would be in a paranoid state of alert 24/7

Aya · 03-09-2006 08:23 AM

HappyJ Wrote:Well people as a whole are dumb. Do you really want [steryotypical] hillbillies (no offence to anyone) voting on issues that use long words?

I don't know. Do you really want 16, and 17 year olds voting on issues when they can't spell, and know shit about politics? Alot of people in general will say no. But people on this board will say yes. We can't discriminate against people on basis of thier ignorance, then champion for someone elses rights.

HappyJ · 03-09-2006 08:32 AM

Ayliana Wrote:Do you really want 16, and 17 year olds voting on issues when they can't spell, and know shit about politics? Alot of people in general will say no. But people on this board will say yes.

Umm actually, I would say no, Why let them vote on it if they can't even understand what it is their voting on. Yes some select few teenagers (mostly people who are intelligent enough to hold a conversation.. AKA. almost anyone signed up for this forum) are intelligent enough to understand this and vote on things like that but just because theres a select few (probobly less than 10% of the teenage population) doesn't mean that their going to let everyone vote, and their not going to make an exception for the select few, why, because life sucks...

Rebelnerd · 03-09-2006 08:59 AM

alyiana, we're not discriminating. we're doing the opposite. we're saying that everyone should vote.

and for those of you hwo think voting should be done by only those qualified, let me ask you this: who will be the ones deciding who's qualified?

cheesenomore · 03-10-2006 07:24 AM

i definitly wouldn't trust most of the kids my age to vote responsibly...

and for the deficit and us having to pay for it, etc: bye bye alls, i'm a-movin' to canada!

Rebelnerd · 03-10-2006 07:53 AM

i hate it when people tak about voting "responsably" it just sounds wrong. who are we to propose rules based on our opinions of someone else's voting decisions? it may appear irresponsable to us but it's still their decision. even if they vote for the kkk or some fucked up shit like that, it's still THEIR decision.

HappyJ · 03-10-2006 09:18 AM

Rebelnerd Wrote:i hate it when people tak about voting "responsably" it just sounds wrong. who are we to propose rules based on our opinions of someone else's voting decisions? it may appear irresponsable to us but it's still their decision. even if they vote for the kkk or some fucked up shit like that, it's still THEIR decision.

Thats not what voting irresponsibly is. If you agree with the KKK and you vote for them thats responsible voting. irresponsible voting is you dont watch the media, you dont know whats going on, someone tells you that theres a vote, so you run to the voting booths, and pull random levers... basically. Or vote for someone just because they look better than another person, tahts voting irresponsibly. Responsibilty at the polls has nothing to do with who/what you vote for/against, its all about how much information you have on the subject.

Freak · 03-10-2006 11:06 AM

Quote:i definitly wouldn't trust most of the kids my age to vote responsibly...
and for the deficit and us having to pay for it, etc: bye bye alls, i'm a-movin' to canada!

Well can we here AGEISM and STEREOTYPING! Well I pretty much agree with HappyJ.

HappyJ · 03-10-2006 11:41 AM

freak-of-nature13 Wrote:Well can we here AGEISM and STEREOTYPING! Well I pretty much agree with HappyJ.

Ya know, for years now i've been wondering if Humans are still evolving and if so, in what way. Thank you, You just made me have REVELATION.. well a realization atleast. Yes humans are evolving, but in a bad way. Ageism and Steryotyping, no maytter how much we try and stop it, has evolved to be human nature...

Rebelnerd · 03-10-2006 11:42 AM

HappyJ Wrote:Or vote for someone just because they look better than another person, tahts voting irresponsibly.

that's not just teens, look at nixon vs. kennedy. i know it turned out they were right, but still...

**SoulRiser** · 03-10-2006 02:54 PM

lifeischeese Wrote:i definitly wouldn't trust most of the kids my age to vote responsibly...

neither would i, nor would i trust most of the people my parent's age to vote responsibly, nor would i trust most people my grandparents age to vote responsibly... fact is, all most people know is the 'promises' the politicians make, there's not enough real information on those bastards out there...

Freak · 03-11-2006 07:35 AM

ok this is what presidents do for their electial campaign:
1. Say they'll do everything for the neviroment
2. less tax cuts
3. More crimial justice
4. Be harder on teens
5. and God Bless America and all the other bullshit they spred around.

I like that South Park video was completely correct. In every election its allways between a Douche Bag and a Turd Sandwich
I think the Ultra-hippie(Nater(sp?)) would do good as president no matter what Kerry and him should have won against Bush but he has to cheat doesn't he??? Well they lie to get into office, what would you do if you could have gotten the (sopposedly) best job in America? And why hasn't any lone assasinated BUSH!!!!!

Ok BTW: If any type of government official in here, then I am NOT saying that I was going to assasinate that basta..excuse me. That dumbas.. I...uh..mean Bush yeah and I wasn't hinting to anyone that they should do it (hint...hint..) Razz

HappyJ · 03-11-2006 08:22 AM

freak-of-nature13 Wrote:And why hasn't any lone assasinated BUSH!!!!!

Thats the only reason i watch his speeches. in hope.. i mean.. uhh.. worry?

Rebelnerd · 03-11-2006 09:22 AM

i watch them to laugh at his mistakes and mispronunciations. some are pretty classic. "switchgrass!" "moo-lahs! (mullahs)" "misunderestimated".

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