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Freak · 08-30-2006 07:49 PM

I wonder why every time a few Americans die in the war in Iraq, they alway get news coverage, or some story saying what happened. And why nobody's thinking about, or care for that matter, about how many Iraqi people have died, too. This issue was brought up when I read the article at the bottom of my post. It shouldn't be how many Americans die, but just how many innocent people in general do.

Quote:"More than 10,000 Iraqis - the vast majority in Baghdad - have been killed in the past four months alone," Taylor wrote, "a figure that would send shockwaves through the international community were it in any other part of the world."

SoulRiser · 08-30-2006 09:39 PM

it's probably because if people in the US knew just how many people were dying, they'd start to feel sorry for them and start to doubt the whole war thing (sure, they're doing that already, but not in sufficient number yet)...

so basically, they want people to feel for the soldiers dying more, so that they'll subconsciously support the idea of more Iraqis dying, because, after all, it is "they" who kill the soldiers Rolleyes

Freak · 08-30-2006 10:09 PM

...but that's just sick and twisted.

SoulRiser · 08-31-2006 12:20 AM

yeah... it is.

i hope i'm wrong about it Uhoh

Freak · 08-31-2006 12:53 AM

Oh, I doubt it.

Rebelnerd · 08-31-2006 01:37 AM

hey, if the government didn't let reporters view the coffins of our soldiers do you really think they give a crap about the iraquis? we used cluster bombs and white phosphorus in cities!

Happy Camper · 08-31-2006 05:17 AM

Silly freak. Iraquis are wicked. Nobody mourns the wicked.

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Alucard483 · 08-31-2006 07:59 AM

you guys are saying this like the solders say "hey lets go hunt some camle jockys" No these people are killed either by accedent or by the insergents.

Rebelnerd · 08-31-2006 08:07 AM

by accident. right. here's a question, if we have all these smart bombs that can fly down a chimmney or whatever, then why are our missiles going off course and blowing up villages? and why the FUCK are we using cluster bombs in highly populated areas? and how come some of our missiles didn't even hit iraq, they went off course into syria. if it's an accident caused by gross incompetance, it's still not okay.

Alucard483 · 08-31-2006 08:16 AM

cluster bombs on highly populated areas is usually because foe canot be determined from frendly so a carpet bomb would be most efficeint. smart bombs are only good if we have men on the ground lazer dezignating them. as for missiles going off coarse i dont know about that. but i can garentee that 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time that doesnt happen. so why do we only hear about tragedy? because tragedy sells

Rebelnerd · 08-31-2006 10:10 AM

dude, if you can't tell who's friendly in a crowd of people you don't just kill them all! there are women and children in those cities! and missiles fail a lot more than that, you're info is completely wrong.

Happy Camper · 08-31-2006 10:18 AM

alucard483 Wrote:so why do we only hear about tragedy? because tragedy sells

Only if you aren't responsible for causing it.

It only sells on the black market then.

This whole war is weird. There's a whole mix of religion and idealology over there. You can't come in and settle a war of ideals with the use of weapons. Well...I suppose you could but I'm pretty sure that would be immoral to an extent.

Nobody is going to win this war but I'll bet you anything the media spin at the end will say differently.

09-16-2006 01:24 PM

Soldiers in Iraq aren't doing the most damage to civilians. Most of the deaths are caused by the Iraqi resistance and sectarian violence. You can argue that invading was the catalyst, which it was, and you can argue that it was stupid to invade, it was, but the soldiers aren't killing many civilians at all.

My theory is that the Global War on Terrorism was started by the Gulf War.
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1) The US invasion of Iraq in 1990 to help Kuwait extremely pissed of those in the area and Muslims in general. Not only is the US meddling in their affairs, but they put thousands of heathen troops into the Holy Land! It is the utmost sacrilege.
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2) The US gives weapons and training to the mujahadeen, of which Usama (not oh-sama) bin Laden and many future Al Qaeda members are.
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What does that equal? Pissed off + guns = hurt

(I know there were many more political things going on, but I think this a simple explanation for what happened.)

In the interest of fanning the flames of war hating... I have counted eight wars or conflicts going on because of this War of Terror:

Afghan Civil War
Waziristan Conflict (Pakistan)
Insurgency in Saudi Arabia
War in Iraq
Operation Enduring Freedom-Afghanistan/War in Afghanistan
OEF-Philippines
OEF-Horn of Africa (East Africa)
OEF-Pankisi Gorge (Georgia)

93 93/93,

Kirby

09-16-2006 02:59 PM

Oh no, BigWolf, I understand what US soldiers have been doing. Horrible acts of violence and depravity, but they've still done less than the other guys. I just get annoyed when people never look at the whole picture.