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Big brother is watching

Whole fucking lotta shit, and it's make you fucking RAGE
Quote:Nora and John Suter trust their 16-year-old son, Tyler. But when the suburban St. Louis teen began driving in July, his parents wanted to be able to see how he was doing.

The Suters, of Imperial, got a video camera for free through American Family Insurance's Teen Safe Driver program. The camera is the size of a paperback and is mounted just above the rear view mirror of Tyler's Mustang.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that whenever the Mustang makes a notable erratic move, the camera starts recording. The footage is broadcast via satellite to a company called DriveCam, where a safety specialist reviews it and writes a critique. Parents can view the video on the company's website. Parents also get e-mail alerts for particularly concerning footage.


Damn I would break that.


Quote:Concerned about "sexting" and "cyberbullying" in schools, Virginia's attorney general says teachers have the legal authority to seize and search through students' cell phones and laptops – without consent, warrant or parental permission.

In an advisory opinion addressed to State Delegate Robert Bell, Virginia Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II says teachers with "reasonable suspicion" of wrongdoing can confiscate students' electronic devices to search stored messages for evidence.

"It is my opinion," Cuccinelli writes, "that searches and seizures of students' cellular phones and laptops are permitted when there is a reasonable suspicion that the student is violating the law or the rules of the school."

The opinion states that though the U.S. Constitution's Fourth Amendment normally preserves the right of the people "to be secure in their persons, house, papers and effects against unreasonable search and seizure," nonetheless, "The supervision and operation of schools present 'special needs' beyond normal law enforcement and, therefore, a different framework is justified."

John W. Whitehead, founder of the civil liberties group Rutherford Institute, however, warned Cuccinelli's opinion could lead to violations of students' civil rights.

"This is bad, bad thinking," Whitehead told the Charlottesville, Va., Daily Progress. "It's just appalling that people think like this in a country where we're supposed to be teaching kids to value freedom and civil rights."

"This teaches a really bad political science lesson," he continued, "and that's that the government can do whatever it wants with you."
State Delegate Bell, a Republican who sits in Virginia's "Thomas Jefferson seat" – since Jefferson represented the region in the state's General Assembly from 1769 to 1774 – had originally asked Cuccinelli for the opinion so he could answer questions from school principals in his district.

The administrators were asking how far they could go to counter "sexting" – the practice of students sending explicit or nude photos to one another via cell phone – and cruel and demeaning messages via email and social networks commonly called "cyberbullying."

"School administrators don't want to violate anybody's rights," Bell told the Daily Progress. "And they don't want to break the law. But they do want to be able to intervene if they can."

In his opinion, Cuccinelli cites the 1985 U.S. Supreme Court case New Jersey v. T.L.O, which ruled that "the substantial need of teachers and administrators for freedom to maintain order in the schools does not require the strict adherence to the requirement that searches be based on probable cause."

Therefore, Cuccinelli concludes, should a student report to a teacher a bullying or "sexting" text message from another student, for example, the teacher should have the authority to seize the alleged bully's cell phone to investigate the claim.

"It is my general opinion that a search of a cellular phone by a school principal or teacher under these circumstances would be reasonable under the Fourth Amendment and the standard established in New Jersey v. T.L.O.," Cuccinelli writes. "Moreover, under T.L.O., once a reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing exists, a search of a student's personal belongings does not require the student's consent or the consent of his parents."

The only caveat Cuccinelli includes concerns discovery of nude or explicit photos of a minor. Should a teacher discover such photos, the attorney general advises, the phone needs to be turned into the police rather than the school administration, or the teacher could face charges of distributing child pornography.

Whitehead, however, worries that teachers and administrators don't have the expertise to judge probable cause for such searches and could abuse the power Cuccinelli is conceding them.

"They don't know what reasonable suspicion is," he said. "They have one job – teaching students. They're not law enforcement."

OH MY FUCKING GOD ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Please tell my this is all a joke.

Lastly, and this is a bit like the top one, but...
Quote:MPERIAL, Mo. (AP) — Tyler Suter is a teenager most any parent would be proud to have.

He makes A's and B's at Seckman High School. He's respectful to his parents. Responsible, too. Through a part-time job at a local ice rink, he earned half the money for a car he found in the classifieds — a 2004 maroon Mustang without as much as a crumb on the floor mats.

So when it came time last July for Mom and Dad to hand over the Mustang keys to their newly minted 16-year-old driver, you'd think they didn't hesitate, right?
"It was scary — very, very scary," said his mother, Nora Suter, as Tyler, slightly embarrassed, hid his face beneath a shiny mop of black hair that curled at his neck.

Nora and John Suter said they trusted and treasured their son. But no matter how responsible he is, they didn't want to take their eyes off of him completely as he sped off with his friends into a particularly risky phase of teen independence — the first year of driving.

Thanks to their insurance company, the parents found a solution that's made Tyler a reluctant celebrity at his school, and his mom, well, a bit like Big Mother.

Last July, the Suters installed a video camera the size of a paperback just above the rear view mirror of the Mustang that keeps a running tab of Tyler's every erratic driving move.

Alas, there have been many.

Such as the time Tyler's buddy in the car urged, "Yeah, do it, do it" above a rant of rapper music pumping out of the Mustang's speakers. Tyler obliged. He floored the gas to pass a friend's high-riding pickup in a subdivision, only later realizing that the red "record" light had blinked on. The camera stopped just seconds after Tyler looked up sheepishly at the lens — leaving his mother and father to ponder their son in a freeze-frame of guilt.

"I looked up and saw the light and I knew I was busted," Tyler recalled.

Then there was the video of the time he nearly rear-ended the car at the stop sign as his friends yelled, "Stop, stop!" Nor could Mom and Dad forget the blown stop sign where Tyler gassed the car into a right-hand turn to catch up with a friend, again with his passengers egging him on.

"Unh, unh, unh," Nora Suter muttered again and again as she watched the videos on a laptop inside the family's kitchen, with Tyler and her husband nearby. Thanks to two lenses, the camera had simultaneously captured what was going on both inside and in front of the car.

The montage of speed, risk and peer pressure was enough to make any parent cringe.

"Tyler, do you see how dangerous this could be?" Nora Suter said calmly in reference to the blown stop sign. "A child could run out on the street and you'd have no time to stop."

The Suters got the camera for free through American Family Insurance's Teen Safe Driver program after hearing about it through a friend who is an insurance agent.

"We can certainly give you something to talk about with your child," said American Family Insurance spokesman Steve Witner.

Though the company has no evidence the cameras reduce insurance costs, it believes they enable parents to better connect with their children about driver safety. With the videos, teens can't deny their mistakes and are more apt to understand and fix them more quickly, Witner said.

The Suters are one of 9,000 families nationwide who have taken the insurance company up on the camera since the program started about four years ago. In Missouri, they are one of just 732. The program is entirely voluntary.

The camera arrived in the mail last summer with a voucher for installation. It will remain in Tyler's car free of charge for a year.

Whenever the Mustang makes a notable erratic move, the camera starts recording. Then, like in a spy movie, the footage is broadcast via satellite to a San Diego-based company called DriveCam, where a safety specialist reviews it and writes a brief critique. The videos are then posted on the company's website where parents can log into a password-protected account and view them.

In cases in which the footage is particularly disturbing, Mom and Dad get an e-mail alert.

Remember Tyler's passing stunt? Nora Suter got both an e-mail and a written critique of Tyler's erratic "event."

"Reckless, unsafe behavior was exhibited in this event. The driver's actions constituted disregard for the safety of themselves or others," wrote a faceless DriveCam employee named Erin.

Not all of the critiques are so pointed.

Tyler was once flagged when the footage revealed a friend improperly wearing his seat belt. Once he was praised for his quick reflexes when a car shot out from a feeder road right in front of him and he swerved to avoid a serious accident. Mostly he's been called out on taking corners too quickly, rolling past stop signs and having too many distractions in the car.


Tomorrow I am going to kill myself if this is how our parents "trust us."
01-08-2011 08:27 AM
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Don't drive like a dumbass if you don't want to be monitored.

I suggest you follow through with your plan to commit suicide. You clearly think that it's okay to drive like a retard. This is a bad thread and you should feel bad.
01-10-2011 04:13 AM
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BobManPerson Wrote:Don't drive like a dumbass if you don't want to be monitored.

I suggest you follow through with your plan to commit suicide. You clearly think that it's okay to drive like a retard. This is a bad thread and you should feel bad.

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BobManPerson Wrote:Don't drive like a dumbass if you don't want to be monitored.

I suggest you follow through with your plan to commit suicide. You clearly think that it's okay to drive like a retard. This is a bad thread and you should feel bad.
Fuck you. I'm not saying it's a good idea to drive like a retard but you need to have some privacy, if you even know what privacy is.
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Jmusial Wrote:
BobManPerson Wrote:Don't drive like a dumbass if you don't want to be monitored.

I suggest you follow through with your plan to commit suicide. You clearly think that it's okay to drive like a retard. This is a bad thread and you should feel bad.
Fuck you. I'm not saying it's a good idea to drive like a retard but you need to have some privacy, if you even know what privacy is.
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Easy way to avoid being monitored and have privacy (or as much of it as possible in your car, which is covered in windows): don't drive like a dumbass.
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Ah another quality response by bobmanperson.

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BobManPerson Wrote:Easy way to avoid being monitored and have privacy (or as much of it as possible in your car, which is covered in windows): don't drive like a dumbass.
Stop being a fucktard. That isn't the point of this thread. If your retarded mind cannot understand that then I suggest you leave.
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Imagine their faces when the camera turns on and there is blood and guts on the lens.
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