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Money is less important than you think
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Re: Money is less important than you think

SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:Money has no importance watsover. SOCIAL CAPITALISM, wtf?

I would read weswammy's psuedo-intellectual argument, but I seriously would rather him come to me, and try to destroy everything I'm saying with some milton freidman straw man shit.sit in my delusional anti capitalist bubble, despite the fact that by virtue of me sitting in front of a computer and typing on the internet I've directly benefited from capitalism..

Fixed.
08-11-2011 06:42 AM
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Ayliana Wrote:
SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:Money has no importance watsover. SOCIAL CAPITALISM, wtf?

I would read weswammy's psuedo-intellectual argument, but I seriously would rather him come to me, and try to destroy everything I'm saying with some milton freidman straw man shit.sit in my delusional anti capitalist bubble, despite the fact that by virtue of me sitting in front of a computer and typing on the internet I've directly benefited from capitalism..

FUCK FUCK FUCK ME HATEMYLIFE

you forgot to add the part where I'm also trapped in society in completely run by capitalism, capitalism so great it's controlling everything and item in my house currently, and in my many attempts to separate myself from having failed, have had to come into the acceptance of middle class reality, and use the internet to debate my autonomous beliefs and research them, and steal shit, while benefiting some privately own ISP. But not forgetting the fact that even in an anti-capitalistic society ( which many examples and definitions by far all except communism and state socialism) that I would have better, non advertised,less controlled, more free internet access also.

Fu

To be an anarchist, is to suffer greatly. To be a black woman is to suffer secretly. To be the earth, is to suffer silently.

I wish no harm on anyone, but those whose harmful ways will not stop without the same harm.

It's time we kill this cancerous system, before it kills us and everything left of gaia. Rise from our immaturity and take back our autonomy!

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Re: Money is less important than you think

SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:Money has no importance watsover. SOCIAL CAPITALISM, wtf?

I would read weswammy's psuedo-intellectual argument, but I seriously would rather him come to me, and try to destroy everything I'm saying with some milton freidman straw man shit.
How is it a straw man? And why don't you read my argument? Do you have no refutation to it?

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SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:Money has no importance watsover. SOCIAL CAPITALISM, wtf?

I would read weswammy's psuedo-intellectual argument, but I seriously would rather him come to me, and try to destroy everything I'm saying with some milton freidman straw man shit.
How is it a straw man? And why don't you read my argument? Do you have no refutation to it?

Because firstly, I don't have the time nor patience to spend my time on the internet reading that entire argument and all it's refutes and blah blah blah.

I'd figure since you have no time on your hands and are always on the internet that you would come to me. Which you did.

That being I've listened to many Milton Freidman debates and saw this repetitive straw man complex. And i was being hyperbolic that you are straw man, given the fact that you would lick his balls to his crusty old anus if he were still alive right now.

As I said, your being straw man right here:

" And why don't you read my argument? Do you have no refutation to it?"

How would I have a refutation if I didn't read it. Which you previously make apparent, and then assume something illogically mistaken.

To be an anarchist, is to suffer greatly. To be a black woman is to suffer secretly. To be the earth, is to suffer silently.

I wish no harm on anyone, but those whose harmful ways will not stop without the same harm.

It's time we kill this cancerous system, before it kills us and everything left of gaia. Rise from our immaturity and take back our autonomy!

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SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:Because firstly, I don't have the time nor patience to spend my time on the internet reading that entire argument and all it's refutes and blah blah blah.
If you don't have the time to justify your beliefs you ought to withhold having them.

Quote:That being I've listened to many Milton Freidman debates and saw this repetitive straw man complex. And i was being hyperbolic that you are straw man, given the fact that you would lick his balls to his crusty old anus if he were still alive right now.
I could very well say you have an ad hominem complex by the quote I'm responding too.
And I fail to see how Milton Friedman has a straw man complex. Pleas elaborate.

Quote:As I said, your being straw man right here:

" And why don't you read my argument? Do you have no refutation to it?"

How would I have a refutation if I didn't read it. Which you previously make apparent, and then assume something illogically mistaken.
I should have worded it as "do you think you will have no refuation to it?" Sorry, my bad. I made a mistake in my wording, don't we all?

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08-11-2011 07:53 AM
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Quote:If you don't have the time to justify your beliefs you ought to withhold having them.

No, you are assuming that having a petty internet argument is justifying my beliefs. So now the libertarian is telling me what to do? Which is off topic, and slightly straw man.

And saying that is totally contradicting because how can you not believe something, and what is justification, and if you didn't have time you wouldnt've had time to discover that belief in the first place, and shit this is getting confusing.

Quote:I could very well say you have an ad hominem complex by the quote I'm responding too.
And I fail to see how Milton Friedman has a straw man complex. Pleas elaborate.

Truth being you would lick his balls, the ad hominem being the negative aridity of my joke.

But I'd rather be referred to as an ad hominem, because depending on what you consider truth, the ad hominem is right in this case.

I'm not digging up every argument I've seen my him that straw man, but I'll give you this vid because I'm being generous


Watch on YouTube

The bias is obviously implying that michael moore is getting owned, but I don't have my headphones right now. Throughout the video he starts by saying " But your argueing principal" or some shit, really can't tell right now. And doesn't let him even finish what hes trying to say without redirecting his position.
BUt I'll elaborate further later.

Quote:I should have worded it as "do you think you will have no refuation to it?" Sorry, my bad. I made a mistake in my wording, don't we all?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhttt. Suspicious

But anyway this is my reply for now, I have to go. Peace

To be an anarchist, is to suffer greatly. To be a black woman is to suffer secretly. To be the earth, is to suffer silently.

I wish no harm on anyone, but those whose harmful ways will not stop without the same harm.

It's time we kill this cancerous system, before it kills us and everything left of gaia. Rise from our immaturity and take back our autonomy!

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SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:No, you are assuming that having a petty internet argument is justifying my beliefs. So now the libertarian is telling me what to do? Which is off topic, and slightly straw man.
I wasn't telling you that you can't hold your beliefs. I just don't think it's a wise course of action.

Quote:And saying that is totally contradicting because how can you not believe something, and what is justification, and if you didn't have time you wouldnt've had time to discover that belief in the first place, and shit this is getting confusing.
I just think it's bad to not expose yourself to opposing ideas. That's all. That's why I come on here and debate, to try to expose myself to other ideas and defend my own.

Quote:

Watch on YouTube

The bias is obviously implying that michael moore is getting owned, but I don't have my headphones right now. Throughout the video he starts by saying " But your argueing principal" or some shit, really can't tell right now. And doesn't let him even finish what hes trying to say without redirecting his position.
BUt I'll elaborate further later.
Well, the name of the video has nothing to do with Friedman. The person who uploaded it named it that. I would personally agree that Friedman owned him, but that's all subjective.

I've watched the video, but correct me if I'm wrong when you get a chance to watch the whole thing if you haven't already: The point Moore was trying to make was that Ford should have installed a certain component on the Pinto in order to make it safer. However, Ford calculated that the cost of installing it would be greater than the cost, to them, of people being injured and dying because the component wasn't there. Moore thought Ford should have been made to install the component.

Friedman, however, simply said that nobody can accept the principle that an infinite value can be placed on a human life. And, the principle underlying Moore's argument was that a human life was worth more than Ford estimated it to be. All arguments are based on some sort of reasoning or principle, whether utilitarian, moralistic, or etc.

Watch the whole video and listen carefully to Friedman's argument.

Quote:Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhttt. Suspicious
Uhoh Oh no, she's on to me.

Quote:But anyway this is my reply for now, I have to go. Peace
Ciao.

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Re: Money is less important than you think

Ayliana Wrote:
SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:Money has no importance watsover. SOCIAL CAPITALISM, wtf?

I would read weswammy's psuedo-intellectual argument, but I seriously would rather him come to me, and try to destroy everything I'm saying with some milton freidman straw man shit.sit in my delusional anti capitalist bubble, despite the fact that by virtue of me sitting in front of a computer and typing on the internet I've directly benefited from capitalism..

Fixed.

Ayliana, stop "fixing" peoples opinions for them. You know what that reminds me of?

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Right back at you, I never thought the soviet model was good.
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Re: Money is less important than you think

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Ayliana Wrote:
SH☮TGUNHEⒶRT Wrote:Money has no importance watsover. SOCIAL CAPITALISM, wtf?

I would read weswammy's psuedo-intellectual argument, but I seriously would rather him come to me, and try to destroy everything I'm saying with some milton freidman straw man shit.sit in my delusional anti capitalist bubble, despite the fact that by virtue of me sitting in front of a computer and typing on the internet I've directly benefited from capitalism..

Fixed.

Ayliana, stop "fixing" peoples opinions for them. You know what that reminds me of? I'm too stupid to know when obvious troll is obvious.

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Right back at you, I never thought the soviet model was good. I just want to implement all their failed economic policies

Fixed



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PS thank you for not addressing any of the legitimate arguments I made in my previous comments.
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