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I prefer to say "bootlegged" because I think it's cooler to say instead of "pirate"

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I pirated a Limp Bizkit song and a few Green Day songs on a school computer one time, they never knew, and I'm probably going to bootleg (if you count burning stuff onto discs as pirating) Halo Reach. I already bought the game in a store, but since I have 2 little brothers (we all are Halo fans) we can only play two people at once on a TV (split-screen) but since my uncle gave me a xbox for free, so I just need a burner and a disc with a lot of gigs, so I can play campaign/firefight/custom games with my two brothers. (It will be me playing on the second console in one room and over a system link or over xbox live and my two brothers playing on my original console in the next room on splitscreen)

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Piracy isn't theft. Theft robs the original owner of the item in question, piracy makes a copy and doesn't deprive the holder of said item.

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Piracy isn't theft. Theft robs the original owner of the item in question, piracy makes a copy and doesn't deprive the holder of said item.

Bless your soul.

Best way to find an idiot is to see if they equate cyber-piracy with theft. Only a real cyberpirate knows it ain't theft, it's just making a copy.

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You are robbing them of the money they should get. Movie/game/book and software creators need to eat too!
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(02-13-2015 02:21 AM)Jop Wrote:  You are robbing them of the money they should get. Movie/game/book and software creators need to eat too!

Then buy indie games and pirate large corporations.

The "They need to eat" argument is pretty weak. Actors make millions 1-2 digit millions, studios make 2-3 digit millions.

So don't tell me that Brad Pitt or Fox "needs to eat" when they're making millions of dollars.

Amazing how people can be so easily duped to believe the crap corporations tell them. "We're people too, if you overlook the fact we try to avoid paying taxes, find tax loopholes, and only care about making more money!"-Corporate Motto

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(02-13-2015 02:21 AM)Jop Wrote:  You are robbing them of the money they should get. Movie/game/book and software creators need to eat too!

Should they get money? Sure. But the REAL question is, should we the consumers have an obligation to pay them? No. You can make things like movies, games, books sure, but don't expect that your customer have an obligation to pay for it.

I hold doors open for people and do free shit all the time, you don't expect me to get paid for it.

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(02-13-2015 02:21 AM)Jop Wrote:  You are robbing them of the money they should get. Movie/game/book and software creators need to eat too!

If I am not going to buy something in the first place and then decide to pirate it, please do tell me what money I am depriving them of. After day-to-day expenses I do not have money to spare, so it isn't as though I'm going to add to their bottom-line if I decide not to pirate something. Occasionally I do go to a concert or buy an album to support artists I enjoy, almost always after pirating their work. Ultimately, they do not lose any money off of me and only stand to gain after I decide to download their material. We're glad to hear your parents have extra money for you to splurge though.

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Plus I like to believe that piracy helps keep popular games in existence in a virtual setting even if it's not as available in the physical sense.

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(02-14-2015 09:01 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Plus I like to believe that piracy helps keep popular games in existence in a virtual setting even if it's not as available in the physical sense.

That's true, we will always be able to play games from classic consoles through emulators despite the availability of the originals getting scarcer in proportion to time. Smile

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Meanwhile, I feel guilty for buying FTL during a sale.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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The "put up for free and ask for donations" model sounds good, but the problem is that it does unfortunately not work. Some people have tried it and they barely got any money to sustain themselves.
I have read a really good blog post about it but I can't find it anymore.
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I think since all ideas come from the outside world, the outside world is basically the public domain, and if it comes from the public domain, it should stay IN the public domain. Therefore, people do not own ideas and cannot monopolize them.

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(02-14-2015 07:14 PM)Jop Wrote:  The "put up for free and ask for donations" model sounds good, but the problem is that it does unfortunately not work. Some people have tried it and they barely got any money to sustain themselves.
I have read a really good blog post about it but I can't find it anymore.

Well the modern motto is "Name it full, sell it half". Especially video games where you don't even get the full game and have to buy DLCs to actually have the complete thing(for example, Company of Heros. You buy the standard game, and what do ya see? a menu with like 8 campaigns but only 1 is playable because it turns out the rest are DLCs. I just got sold 1/8th a game for the cost of a full game).

Plus only jerks take advantage of indie games for the most part. Probably because indie gamers aren't anal about piracy and go crazy with anti-piracy campaigns, lawsuits and defamation.

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This is very difficult. For a long time, I struggled to decide either way on the topic of digital piracy. After much thought, I concluded that we are faced with a sort of compositional labyrinth, one in which rules governing the individual cannot be allowed dominion over the population.

If I am choosing between one of two options--pirating a movie or not watching it at all--I can say that the former costs no one anything (the producer would not have had my business anyway), while the latter costs me enjoyment. The logical choice is to pirate. That's right, Pirating is preferable to not watching, and we legally allow people not to watch movies.

On the scale of a population, however, mass-pirating would devastate producers and we would all lose the pleasure of good movies. We must then make it difficult enough for people to pirate that some will still buy. By setting such obstacles in their way as legal persecution, we preserve the flourishing state of the cinematic industry.

But if you or I are resourceful enough to avoid such pitfalls and still pirate, are we justified? I say yes.

Principle does not oppose the lone pirate, so I would suggest carefully moderated coercion take its place.
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Looking back I'm unsure how I feel about piracy, especially given that I'm writing a book and such will be a source of income; I mean personally I'd actually love for my book to be pirated if it got published, but people forget that not all of these artists are super rich, and that their lives are more stressful than we'd like to think they are.

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(04-11-2017 04:10 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  I mean personally I'd actually love for my book to be pirated if it got published

Why not just put it online then Confused
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Cause I'd love for it to get published and have a stream of income lol, and use that income for further resources.

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"I'm not going to put it on the web, but I hope some random dickhead does"

You can BOTH put it on the web and publish it, you know. I've seen someone do that actually.
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I know, it's called an eBook, and Amazon, lol.

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