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No Child Left Behind

It seems to me that one of the most important issues facing education in the U.S., for everyone, including teachers, is the No Child Left Behind legislation. When education is made into test preparation, when "non-essential" elements are elminated so students are forced to concentrate on "basics" then things get fucked up pretty quick. Teachers are not always to blame for what happens in the classroom. In fact, they often have very little control at all. You may want to check this out, including (maybe especially) the commments:

http://pandagon.net/2006/09/20/no-child-...d-to-move/
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Once again I hate the EDIT: Government.
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The blame for this goes to Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II

They all bought the standards based reform hype.
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Standardised school doesn't work because of the wide difference of abilities between people. If you stop to help the bad students, the good and regular students will be slowed in their learning. If help the good students, you harm the slow and the regular. If you help the regular students, you harm both good and bad students.
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Some good sights with links : http://www.nomoretests.com
http://alfiekohn.org/stdtest.htm
http://www.susanohanian.org
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Oh, yeah. Read the Alfie Kohn site. That is one cool old dude. One of my fave writers on education.
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One of mine too! No More Tests has some great ideas/suggestions on how to organize, unite and stand against standardized testing.
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yes it does

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i despise those tests.
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I actually do really well on my tests, last year I got complemented on it by my principal, which is serious because he hates me. Or it could have been because he originally thought I was a dumbass, but then I showed him. Evil
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Be nice if they could figure it out w/o a stupid test wouldn't it? Same thing happend to me way back when. In second grade they thought I was retarded or something (not really, but definitely struggling w/ school). One test later, and they're like, "Ah, he's gifted! That's the ticket."
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Doc Johnson Wrote:Be nice if they could figure it out w/o a stupid test wouldn't it? Same thing happend to me way back when. In second grade they thought I was retarded or something (not really, but definitely struggling w/ school). One test later, and they're like, "Ah, he's gifted! That's the ticket."

Such is the flaw of these tests. They are but a snapshot of a particular day. They cannot/ do not assess the true, whole, individual learner.
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Those examinations are worth shit anyway. I knew a girl in highschool who failed all but one portion of the 10th grade test after two tries. In my state, they require you to take remedial classes in your senior year if you can't take the test. She needed three but only took two and she graduated anyway. Not only that, she's in college with me. I was pissed, especially since people started protesting and boycotting NCLB after I had already taken the damn thing. I protested the SAT's though by not taking the newer version Biggrin That pissed my counselor off.
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