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The Question of Supremacy
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The Question of Supremacy

So, I've been reading up on this Church of Euthanasia dealy.
And they keep advocating, to save the planet. All this, "You're damaging the enviroment, kill yourself". Forcing contraceptives into the water, releasing deadly viruses, etc.

This makes no sense to me. Sure, humanity has alienated itself from the Earth, but that's fine in my opinion.
So, why should humanity be extinguished? What would be the purpose? To save the planet? Why? We're the dominant species. Why not advance ourselves, and take over the world?

They keep screaming about Humanity should die, but why can't we live? Sure, we can try and minimize the damage, but I don't see why we should stop. Many claim were damaging the ecosystem. I'd argue we're just rewriting it.

It just doesn't make sense to me.
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More like we're irrelevant. We have this bizarre idea that we are in control or something. Sure, we're awfully good at fucking shit up, but in the end, what does it matter. NOBODY beats the heat death of the universe.

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Sure.
But why the extermination of humanity?
Why do we have to go to the extent of killing people off? Or stopping them from reproducing?
And whose to say that we can't become in control of something?
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Call me speciesist but I'd rather like that humans live. If it came down to destroying the planet, I would. Don't get me wrong, showing compassion for other species is good but for me humans come first. That's why we shouldn't destroy the environment. Destroying the environment means we're screwing ourselves over, only because it is our one and only habitat at this time.

Humans are irrelevant, conscious beings are not. I believe in reincarnation so this human body is just one of millions I could have. I also believe in karma, you are what you do, so if you are an asshole in this life your mind will gravitate towards beings that are naturally assholes.

We shouldn't kill people off. The great die off is coming soon anyways. Unless new technology comes to our rescue, our high tech lives are toast. We don't have unlimited fossil fuels. I have hope with biofuels but most aren't practical.
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FUSION TO THE RESCUE!
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A viable ecosystem doesn't consist of one species. I. Me, personally, I want to survive. It would be nice for humanity to persist, but we can't do so through supremacy in that manner. Maybe if we turn the Earth into a dandelion, that's what will guarantee survival. Earth as a seed pod to plant the universe.

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The problem with fusion is that it may not be viable within the next decade. We may not have enough time. But it would be great if we did.
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yeah, humans are not the best thing thats happened to this environment, but i still think we should live. maybe the fact that i am one has made me biased, but i think that it is possible to minimize our harmful effects if we'd just put a little more research and money into it.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Well ofcourse we're biased on THIS subject, we're talking about exterminating OUR species. Though, I think protecting our enviroment would be pretty easy if we manipulated the media into showing how our effects on the enviroment could annihilate US.

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freak-of-nature13 Wrote:protecting our enviroment would be pretty easy if we manipulated the media into showing how our effects on the enviroment could annihilate US.
People hear of the great destruction that will come because of global warming, but then they hear the temperature is only going to rise a few degrees within a couple of decades. The average person just stops caring, 3-4 degrees more, who cares? This propaganda comes from big companies who want to make global warming seem only a little problem, like we'll only have to put our air conditioners on more.

What the companies don't tell is the effects of that tiny increase of temperature. Lots of ocean life is very sensitive to temperature. Already huge portions of the coral reef are dying. Coral reef provides a home for small fish. Without that home they will die. The big fish then die because they can't eat the small fish. Keep going up and you severely damage the ecosystem. Of course that's just one effect of a small increase in temperature.

That's why we need a lot more education of the masses. People, including myself, don't know very much about the effects of global warming. Most people can't see the scope because they just don't know what will happen. Just saying global warming is bad won't make people help stop it.

Doc Johnson Wrote:Earth as a seed pod to plant the universe.
That's a cool way of saying it. Really to keep the human race going we would have to colonize other solar systems, not just other planets. Eventually some catastrophic event will happen to the Earth, destroying most life. But if we have civilizations on other planets we could recolonize our home world. But first we need to find out our current problems. If we aren't smart enough to manage one planet maybe we shouldn't screw up others.

Rebelnerd Wrote:i think that it is possible to minimize our harmful effects if we'd just put a little more research and money into it.
I think so too. Hopefully if we survive the challenges facing us today (global warming, peak oil, nuclear terrorism) we'll be able to complete the loop of creating and recycling. Right now we just dump old stuff into the ground and dig up fresh stuff. That's a big problem because there isn't an unlimited amount of new stuff in the ground. Things like oil are too far gone to recycle, we can't recycle most oil products anyways. I am sure we will make it through, the question is in what condition.
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In other news, my breath smells like A1 Sauce.
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