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Dark Soul X · 10-07-2006 01:53 AM

It would be a good idea to make a non-violent protest on school. If we got violent, that would be reason enough for the government to try to use even more force back at us. Imagine it: if we had a non-violent protest, and they use force like guns or something, we would be making them look bad. We protest until the end, whether they close down schools or not!

Andy · 10-07-2006 03:07 AM

It'd definatly get some attention. We'd need a lot of schools from different parts of the country, and the world to really have a massive impact. It would take a while to plan out and have everyone cooperate accordingly. But if it all somehow worked, it'd be a huge impact.

Dark Soul X · 10-07-2006 03:10 AM

Yeah, during the impact, other people (people who are out of school) might join us.

Happy Camper · 10-07-2006 04:41 AM

What would be our point exactly? If you take on too much with one protest it tends to be unsucessfull, where as if you have a few speciffic things you'd like to change or propose, it might slip under the radar.

I, myself, am not against schools so much as I am for making them better. And less mandatory...and more alternative. [You know only 20% of the population are auditory learners and yet that's the main method teachers use for schools? So really only 20% are learning effectively in the classroom. This is the type of stuff I want to tackle.] I don't think closing down schools right away is all that reasonable.

Dark Soul X · 10-07-2006 06:52 AM

Okay then. What should the plan be?

Freak · 10-07-2006 07:29 AM

Quote:if we had a non-violent protest, and they use force like guns or something, we would be making them look bad.

HEY! Isn't that what Gandhi did???
And, I think the hardest part would be to get other people to cooperate.

And they said the kids on student council were going to lead the revolution. Giggle

Demonic Pyro · 10-07-2006 07:40 AM

or we could have one like this:
Shooting

Lmao I'm jp I love those smileys tho

Alucard483 · 10-07-2006 08:01 AM

id love to stage a walkout

Demonic Pyro · 10-07-2006 08:03 AM

Yeah BTW I like that Idea

WildFire · 10-07-2006 08:06 AM

i kind of like that idea too.

Andy · 10-07-2006 11:22 AM

Wow, I didnt think so many people would actually respond to this. It's not we're actually going to do this though, just something to ponder over. I guess our motivation would be for everyone to change the school system. It's been this way for years, many years. If important things like the constitution and laws are getting updated every so often, why does a school have to stay the same?

Rebelnerd · 10-08-2006 01:07 AM

yeah, that sounds great. but personally the idea of standing out in a crowd and letting the cops beat the hell out of us with nightsticks seems like a not-so-great idea. protesting=good. martyrdom=bad.

Freak · 10-08-2006 09:05 AM

Yeah, but we could make an example out of them. Mwahaha

Like there was this one video, where this one women wasn't doing anything, just yelling at a riot police officer, and he hit her over the head with his night stick.

10-08-2006 01:55 PM

Andy Wrote:why does a school have to stay the same?

I think people don't see that school is a problem. Most of the adults I have talked to have disliked school. Yet they seem to see it as a necessary part of growing up. WE know that school isn't a necessary part of growing up. Youth rights makes older people uneasy because minors have been treated like crap for thousands of years. Most adults just can't see minors as able to think for themselves.

I was watching CNN and there was a segment on how to keep your teens safe from predators instant messaging them. I was thinking "WTF?" These teens probably can take better care of themself on the internet than their parents. The segment suggested all sorts of things to take away the privacy of teens, like checking their instant messaging logs and moving the computer to more public areas so parents can check what they teen is doing.

Minors can't be seen as possesions of adults. They should be seen as the wards or dependants of adults. Take care of me but don't take away my freedom.

Happy Camper Wrote:I, myself, am not against schools so much as I am for making them better

If by "making better" you mean "DESTROY", then I'm all for it.

BigWolf Wrote:Gandhi = Passive Resistance

Gandhi = Active Resistance + Nonviolence.

Here is an example:
The Salt Satygraha was a protest against a salt tax in India. It was illegal to make sell or produce salt if you were not British. Gandhi walked to Dandi and harvested salt illegally. In what is now Pakistan, the Khudai Khidmatgar, a group of Muslims following Gandhi's principles, led their own satygraha. During one incident, hundreds of nonviolent protesters were killed when the British opened fire on a crowd of protesters. They didn't use violence and they didn't run away.

Pacifism is good as a method but not as a complete theory. We need courage and to be as nonviolent as we can. In certain situations, violence is the right answer.

George Orwell Wrote:That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat
or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there.

**SoulRiser** · 10-09-2006 12:23 AM

Kirby Wrote:During one incident, hundreds of nonviolent protesters were killed when the British opened fire on a crowd of protesters. They didn't use violence and they didn't run away.

If that was me, I'd have RUN LIKE HELL!!!

I think that in general, protesters can do more good alive than dead. Only the really famous ones become martyrs anyway.

Dark Soul X · 10-09-2006 04:15 AM

So nonviolent protests only get you killed? What was I thinking with this protest stuff? I never even knew that all that can happen just for a protest!

Andy · 10-09-2006 04:25 AM

Letters are good too. They cant shoot you for writing letters. If you got a huge number of kids and parents and adults to write a lot of letters to boards of education and to your state/country's government then we can get a lot of attention. And no one gets killed in the process Biggrin

Dark Soul X · 10-09-2006 04:31 AM

Okay. Petitions are good too?

WildFire · 10-09-2006 06:04 AM

yes, some of them, if the issue is important.

Freak · 10-14-2006 02:41 PM

Quote:I, myself, am not against schools so much as I am for making them better. And less mandatory...and more alternative. [You know only 20% of the population are auditory learners and yet that's the main method teachers use for schools? So really only 20% are learning effectively in the classroom. This is the type of stuff I want to tackle.] I don't think closing down schools right away is all that reasonable.

Sorry it took so long to post MY reply to this HC, but I'm an auditory learner.
I'm an auditory, or a solitary learner. Laugh

(I learn both ways fine) and my class schedule go as following:
Go to class.
Sit down.
Write down assignments.
Teacher makes us correct our homework from the previous day from overhead.
Teacher hands out homework assignment.
Work on assignment for the rest of the day.

I'd say my teachers speak less then 100 words to us during the class period.
This isn't auditory learning.

WildFire · 10-15-2006 02:32 AM

omg, my teahcers wont shut up. Especially my art teacher. She talks way to fucking much. "Calligraphy is the art of beautiful writing." she said that five times in a row. Only mr. white bear claws can shut us up. God bless the buff native americans. Laugh

Freak · 10-15-2006 05:16 AM

Mr. White bear claw? Wtf

WildFire · 10-15-2006 05:55 AM

yes. hes sioux.

Freak · 10-15-2006 08:04 AM

Jesus, dude got a long as name.

Here we have a giant fuckinh populaion of hmongs.

Doc Johnson · 10-15-2006 09:03 AM

In Montana, the Hmong grow awesome garlic. Mmmmmm... garlic.

Freak · 10-15-2006 09:51 AM

Well, atleast we know you're not a vampire. Rolleyes

masayume_soto · 01-06-2007 09:53 AM

March 17-21 is the anniversary for the US' occupation in Iraq. Theres going to be activist stuff going on 17-18, and a march or something the 18th. I also hear lots of schools might have walkouts on Monday the 18th. That'd be the perfect time for a national walkout!

Rebelnerd · 01-06-2007 10:07 AM

there might be a big protest in NYC again. if so, i am THERE.

modest mouse · 01-06-2007 10:55 AM

The Wandering Soul Wrote:It would be a good idea to make a non-violent protest on school. If we got violent, that would be reason enough for the government to try to use even more force back at us. Imagine it: if we had a non-violent protest, and they use force like guns or something, we would be making them look bad. We protest until the end, whether they close down schools or not!

Sorry, but that last sentence was dumb as hell.

Instead of closing them down, why not make them better...

Rebelnerd · 01-06-2007 10:58 AM

umm, no. if they use violence i'm getting the fuck out. especially if they've got guns.

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