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Vatman · 03-02-2007 11:55 AM

Funded by the american red cross....a huge ...nonprofit company....that is donated billions and billions...not from Americans..(though they do contribute)....but by corperations for tax brakes as well as good publicity

03-02-2007 02:58 PM

Not all soup kitchens. Think of Food Not Bombs or churches.

My point is this, it is possible to have a non-governmental public school system. I never said it was possible under the current situation, I said it was just possible.

This discussion isn't very constructive. Let's go back to how can we change the school system to make it better. Possibly tomorrow I will post improvements I have thought about.

Lando · 04-11-2007 05:16 AM

Hey Kirby this is a quick question to you. Do you think that we will ever go vocal about the whole, Improving schools by not making them mandatory or that it will ever happen, do you think this sites is helping that cause? Thanks Cool

04-11-2007 05:25 AM

I don't know if people on this site will be vocal as adults but I know that this site is helping. This is the only active website that is populated mostly by students that are against school. People here have set up chapters of NYRA and created organizations for freedom.

**SoulRiser** · 04-11-2007 06:14 AM

There are a few people being vocal about it, but not a whole lot of people (adults and such) are really listening, it seems. So SS is aimed at the students who already know something is horribly wrong, but just don't know that there are lots of other people who agree. School is still too accepted as a normal thing for the general public to really question it that much.

I'd like to write a book about it someday though. I'm sure I won't be the only one Cool

Queen Misery · 04-11-2007 06:37 AM

Your idea of abolishing mandatory education is really bonkers! You should realise by now that no one in their right mind would ever listen to some rebellious, absent-minded yobs, who can't even spell the most simplest words at all! Laugh

Lando · 04-11-2007 06:38 AM

Yeah, good luck on that book btw, maybe you can help out the next generation because its probably not gona be in ours, but I will work with you guys to help us on our journey, nice to be in the site ^_^

Dark Soul X · 04-12-2007 04:32 AM

Queen Misery Wrote: Your idea of abolishing mandatory education is really bonkers! You should realise by now that no one in their right mind would ever listen to some rebellious, absent-minded yobs, who can't even spell the most simplest words at all!

*Laughs at Queen Miserbitch*
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAA! You're such a stupid bitch! You can kiss my ass, and then I'll shit on your face while you do it! Laugh

You'd really like that, wouldn't you, shit eater?

Thanatos Charr Overlord · 05-23-2007 01:40 AM

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Towncommoner · 05-23-2007 06:11 AM

Queen Misery Wrote: Your idea of abolishing mandatory education is really bonkers! You should realise by now that no one in their right mind would ever listen to some rebellious, absent-minded yobs, who can't even spell the most simplest words at all!

Looks like you could use some "mandatory education".

Darthmat · 06-14-2007 09:08 AM

queen misery- if u r going to post pro-school stuff on a anti-school webste then atleast back up what you say so we can have a debate; not a childish insulting contest. Also, if anyone starts arguing about how school is great just say this one thing "How will (does if you are older) trigonamtry help e in life becasue i certainly don't want to have a job taht involves trigonomatry?" Someone answer this from there point of view becasue i can't. btw not everything about school is terrible, some teacherslet you think freely like my SS teacher this year; best techer and class ever!

Darthmat · 06-19-2007 08:27 AM

can i ask ya'll a favor? of course i can... anyways could you wah kirby did at the begging except summarize all of this forum into one Pro School Arguemnts defense taht can't be beaten by pro school peole?

**SoulRiser** · 06-19-2007 08:49 AM

darthmat Wrote:can i ask ya'll a favor? of course i can... anyways could you wah kirby did at the begging except summarize all of this forum into one Pro School Arguemnts defense taht can't be beaten by pro school peole?

That's the eventual idea.

I copied it to the Answers wiki thing here...

Now if more people would add to/edit it, that might eventually happen Wink

Darthmat · 06-19-2007 09:55 AM

i new taht i had a good idea somewer in my head! if soukl riser wants to do it it must be brilliant... Cuckoo

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Evil

Trekkie_Aspie · 06-28-2007 05:37 AM

SoulRiser Wrote:
darthmat Wrote:can i ask ya'll a favor? of course i can... anyways could you wah kirby did at the begging except summarize all of this forum into one Pro School Arguemnts defense taht can't be beaten by pro school peole?

That's the eventual idea.

I copied it to the Answers wiki thing here...

Now if more people would add to/edit it, that might eventually happen

I would if I could find the underground forum, and therefore the password, to do so.

alovernotafighter · 09-12-2007 07:37 PM

Ah, I love you guys... Biggrin

**SoulRiser** · 09-13-2007 01:37 AM

alovernotafighter Wrote:Ah, I love you guys...

Darthmat · 09-13-2007 04:24 AM

thats how it starts out.... with a .... Grouphug

then you are given a one on one..... Hug

THEN THIS HAPPENS (especially if it FoN or Kirby).... Pounce

WildFire · 09-13-2007 09:46 AM

Thats not assraping though, thats a sneak behind hug. Dur.

09-13-2007 09:54 AM

No, it's consensual RANDOM BUTTSECKS.

WildFire · 09-13-2007 09:55 AM

WHAT-EVER!

Darthmat · 09-16-2007 09:54 PM

Kirby Wrote:No, it's consensual RANDOM BUTTSECKS.

Did kirby just agree with me?

Weses · 10-12-2007 05:15 AM

-ohsnip-

Knobby Walsh · 12-14-2007 11:30 AM

I have two arguments for getting an education. Yes, I'm a teacher, but I'm speaking more from personal experience and practical application (in short, what's the UTILITY of becoming educated?).

1) I've probably learned more political science and history and sociology and whatnot through my own reading and study. I've also learned a lot in school (not high school, but college and grad school) and having to teach every subject has taught me a lot.

So what I'm saying is this - it has helped me do two main things - 1) as you grow older, the more you realize how business and the government try and rip you off. Becoming educated helps you to avoid altogether or at least minimize the damage of these criminals ripping you off. You can identify their "games," learn to read the "fine print," and all sorts of things that they try to pull on unaware people.

Second, it helps you formulate logical and sound and well-researched arguments verbally and with the written word.

Of course you can learn all this stuff - like I learned a lot of it - beyond the walls of education. But it does help.

Rebelnerd · 12-14-2007 01:10 PM

Knobby Walsh Wrote:1) as you grow older, the more you realize how business and the government try and rip you off. Becoming educated helps you to avoid altogether or at least minimize the damage of these criminals ripping you off. You can identify their "games," learn to read the "fine print," and all sorts of things that they try to pull on unaware people.

learning can absolutely do this, but what if "education" in the government-funded, institutionalized sense, becomes one of those ways they rip you off? when government and business are essentially in control of what the new generation learns and thinks, the potential for abuse of power is frightening. they won't teach kids how to identify propaganda if they're the ones distributing it.

KittyKatBlack · 12-14-2007 01:33 PM

One of the only things I like about my Christian homeschooling is that they taught me how to identify propaganda.

Knobby Walsh · 12-15-2007 07:28 AM

Rebel and Kitty - both good comments but I'll (hopefully) return a better reply later (out of time.................)

KW

poopidoop2 · 01-15-2008 09:35 AM

Kirby Wrote:Pro-School Arguments

Kirby Wrote:1. "If children didn't go to school, how would they socialize?"

Answer: if kids have to sit silently in class all day, how would THEY socilize.

Kirby Wrote:2. "If children didn't go to school, how would they learn to do X?"

Answer: how do you learn from taking tests everyday

Kirby Wrote:3. "If children didn't go to school, how would they become responsible adults?"

Answer: how would you be responsible if you had to be totally silent and untrusted at school, with the tricky test questions, how could you trust anybody?

Kirby Wrote:4. "You should be glad that you have schooling, what about the millions that don't?"

Answer: why not send our truancy officers over there and kidnap them just like us, would they STILL want education

Kirby Wrote:5. "School is just something that everyone has to do."

Answer: kinda like saying everyone must go to prison for 13 years just to make sure people won't get in trouble

Kirby Wrote:6. "Without a high school diploma getting (a job)/(into college) will be very hard."

Answer: if you had gone to a heavily budget cutted school, wouldn't it be hard t get a good SAT test score and get into a good job/college? .[/quote][/i]

cryptevah72 · 01-21-2008 03:29 AM

look, school has its goods and its bads, and yeah, it needs to change, ALOT, but the very idea is not bad. humanity is flawe to hell, does that mean we should end it? of change it?

Pounce

sneak hugs are awsome! not freeking buttsex!

Trekkie_Aspie · 01-21-2008 09:40 AM

Knobby Walsh Wrote:I have two arguments for getting an education. Yes, I'm a teacher, but I'm speaking more from personal experience and practical application (in short, what's the UTILITY of becoming educated?).

1) I've probably learned more political science and history and sociology and whatnot through my own reading and study. I've also learned a lot in school (not high school, but college and grad school) and having to teach every subject has taught me a lot.

So what I'm saying is this - it has helped me do two main things - 1) as you grow older, the more you realize how business and the government try and rip you off. Becoming educated helps you to avoid altogether or at least minimize the damage of these criminals ripping you off. You can identify their "games," learn to read the "fine print," and all sorts of things that they try to pull on unaware people.

Second, it helps you formulate logical and sound and well-researched arguments verbally and with the written word.

Of course you can learn all this stuff - like I learned a lot of it - beyond the walls of education. But it does help.

Education is one thing. I'm pro-education. I'm just anti-school. Print out the UDOHR, get several highlighters ready, and highlight anything that school breaches.

You'll end up with one colourful piece of paper.

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